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Harmful philosophies based on evolution

1. Communism
2. Nazism
3. Racism
4. Imperialism
5. Atheism
6. Humanism
7. Materialism
8. Amoralism
9. Scientism
10. Pantheism
11. Monopolism
12. Anarchism
13. Occultism
14. Social Darwinism
15. Behaviorism
16. Freudianism

Evil practices based on evolution

1. abortion
2. drug culture
3. promiscuity
4. eugenics
5. pornography
6. genocide
7. chauvinism
8. New-Agism
9. euthanasia
10. pollution
11. bestiality
12. Satanism
13. homosexuality
14. criminality
15. cannibalism
16. witchcraft

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old comment by jsonitsac

I'll refute you one by one here.

Harmful philosophies based on evolution
1. Communism-- Based on the teachings of Karl Marx, holds that class conflict is the driving force in history and has nothing to do with the origins of life.
2. Nazism-- A philosophy that holds that race conflict is the driving force of history, based on the views of Adolf Hilter, who actually burned Darwin's books.
3. Racism --A belief that a socially constructed group of people is inherently superior or inferior to another one. Existed well before Darwin.
4. Imperialism-- A belief that a nation could and should militarily expand and control land and peoples not originally belonging to them, e. g. Roman Empire.
5. Atheism-- A belief that there is no God or Gods. Says nothing about the origins of life but atheists tend to support evolutionary theory.
6. Humanism-- A philosophy that holds that humans are capable of solving their problems without the intervention of the divine. One can still believe in the divine, but on rely on it for intervention in one's life.
7. Materialism-- A belief that what is material is real. A materialist could be a creationist if there was material evidence of it.
8. Amoralism-- A lack of concern for what is right or wrong, somebody can be a sociopath and a creationist.
9. Scientism-- Excessive belief in the power of science to solve problems. It would hold evolutionary theory as valid, but is not caused by it.
10. Pantheism-- A belief that God is in the entire universe.
11. Monopolism-- A belief that for businesses to provide the most efficient services only one business should provide it.
12. Anarchism--A belief that there should not be any government or social order as those things are inherently oppressive.
13. Occultism-- A belief that there are hidden forces such as ghosts or spirits and that with this hidden knowledge one can benefit. Tends to not be scientific.
14. Social Darwinism-- You've got one!
15. Behaviorism-- A school of psychology that holds that one's mind can only be interpreted from a person's behaviors and that one can influence another person's behavior by the use of stimuli.
16. Freudianism-- Holds that there are internal drives and conflicts within the mind and that when these are not resolved people become neurotic. Some of his later work is slightly based on Darwin so I'll give you that.

Evil practices based on evolution
1. abortion-- Women have been attempting to not have babies for millennia, has nothing to do with evolution.
2. drug culture-- Hey man, have you ever read Darwin, I mean REALLY read Darwin, that guy was totally high!
3. promiscuity-- Evolution might explain why some people are promiscuous, but I've never seen any promiscious people use it as a justification for being that way, unless they're caught...
4. eugenics-- Ok, you're kinda right on this one, but the basic principles of artificial selection had been around before Darwin, and there had been some people trying this with people before, e.g. European royalty.
5. pornography--For some reason humans have had a fascination with watching other people fuck for thousands of years.
6. genocide-- No, genocides are caused by an extreme "us vs. them" mentality.
7. chauvinism--Chauvinism is defined as exaggerated or excessive zeal for one's group. One can feel that way with out believing in survival of the fittest.
8. New-Agism-- New Agism might accept it, than again, it might not since many New Agers also reject science. It's too broad of a category to say one way or the other
9. euthanasia-- Euthanasia is a belief that it is ok to help people to die with terminal illnesses. Doing it because they are "unfit to live" might be based off of Darwin, but those who request to be euthanized (the right to die movement) see it as a control issue and not wanting to deal with suffering.
10. pollution-- So since you're a creationist you don't drive or use electricity?
11. bestiality-- Sorta prohibited by the Bible itself, well before Darwin came about.
12. Satanism-- Sorta prohibited by the Bible itself, well before Darwin came about.
13. homosexuality--Sorta prohibited by the Bible itself, well before Darwin came about.
14. criminality-- If that's true why have people been committing crimes since the beginning of time?
15. cannibalism-- There are isolated tribes that do this and probably never heard of Darwin or his ideas.
16. witchcraft--Sorta prohibited by the Bible itself, well before Darwin came about.

old comment by Allegory for Jesus

Communism - supported by Christ's teachings to give up what they own.
Nazism- made easy due to militant Christians.
racism- promoted in many cultures by the religious.
imperialism- so, countries only seized control of new territory in response to learning about evolutionary theory?
atheism- not harmful, not caused by evolution (in fact, it is more often caused by the worst elements within religion).
humanism- see above.
materialism- see above, except note that one can claim that any scientific theory promotes this.
amoralism- seems like that was alive and well before Darwin's time, and is for those who know nothing of his theories as well.
scientism- WTF
pantheism- not harmful, not unique to those who know of Darwin's theory, and many within in your own religion hold this position.
monopolism- just greed and capitalism at work, child.
anarchism- just hatred of government at work, child.
occultism- just interest in religious/spiritual ideas outside of the confines of your religion, child.
Social Darwinism- probably the only true one that you have mentioned. Unfortunately, it is simply applying natural selection to human society (which was built upon principles mitigating this selection), but is not harmful in its forms that are consistent with evolution, since natural selection within a species is caused by competition, not outright confrontation.
behaviorism- studying behavior is bad, now?
Freudianism- how is this bad, exactly? Is it because Freud was an atheist?

Also: Abortion has to do the right of women to terminate a long and cumbersome pregnancy at the expense of non-sentient fetuses.
Drug culture has to do with drugs.
Promiscuity has to do with sex (and women's equality, ironically).
Eugenics has to do with Social Darwinism.
Pornography has to do with promiscuity.
Genocide has to do with racism.
Chauvinsim has the same roots as racism.
New-Agism has the same roots as religion (guillibility and a desire for things that do not exist).
Euthanasia has to do with mercy.
Pollution has to do with capitalist sharks and people who think the Rapture will come in ten minutes.
Bestiality...why do you always bring up bestiality...
Satanism is a response to Christianity, and is either outright mockery or simple liberation.
Homosexuality has to do with love.
Criminality is common among the religious...
Cannibalism was practiced far before Darwin.
Witchcraft also.

Did you people just jot down everything you don't agree with and say "evolution did it"? Sort of like an anti-God? Pathetic.

old comment by Beeblebrox

Harmful philosophies based on evolution

1. Communism------not philosophy; political system based on writings of Marx
2. Nazism--not philosophy; political system based on eugenics and fascism
3. Racism-----not a philosophy; refusal to accept evidence that all Humans are equal regardless of color or culture
4. Imperialism---not a philosophy; a practice of extending power by direct territorial acquisition
5. Atheism---not a philosophy; lack of belief in supernatural deities
6. Humanism---philosophy; rejects supernaturalism and stresses an individual's dignity and worth and capacity for self-realization through reason
7. Materialism---philosophy; a doctrine that the only or the highest values or objectives lie in material well-being and in the furtherance of material progress
8. Amoralism---not a philosophy; being outside or beyond the moral order or a particular code of morals
9. Scientism---not a philosophy; methods and attitudes typical of or attributed to the natural scientist
10. Pantheism---not a philosophy; religious doctrine that equates God with the forces and laws of the universe
11. Monopolism---not a philosophy; A right granted by a government giving exclusive control over a specified commercial activity to a single party.
12. Anarchism---not a philosophy; a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
13. Occultism---not a philosophy; belief in or study of the action or influence of supernatural or supernormal powers
14. Social Darwinism---not a philosophy; sociological theory that sociocultural advance is the product of intergroup conflict and competition
15. Behaviorism---not a philosophy; a school of psychology that takes the objective evidence of behavior (as measured responses to stimuli) as the only concern of its research and the only basis of its theory without reference to conscious experience
16. Freudianism---not a philosophy; of, relating to, or according with the psychoanalytic theories or practices of Sigmund Freud

Evil practices based on evolution

1. abortion---no basis in evolution; legal right awarded to females
2. drug culture---no basis in evolution; counter-culture movement
3. promiscuity---no basis in evolution; appeared in America as a reaction against Puritan-esque strictures on sexuality
4. eugenics---no basis in evolution; a science that deals with the improvement (as by control of human mating) of hereditary qualities of a race or breed
5. pornography---no basis in evolution; he depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
6. genocide---no basis in evolution; Genesis 7:21-23
7. chauvinism---no basis in evolution; an attitude of superiority toward members of the opposite sex
8. New-Agism---no basis in evolution; of, relating to, or being New Age
9. euthanasia---no basis in evolution; the act or practice of killing or permitting the death of hopelessly sick or injured individuals in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy
10. pollution---no basis in evolution; the action of polluting especially by environmental contamination with man-made waste
11. bestiality---no basis in evolution; sexual relations between a human being and a lower animal
12. Satanism---no basis in evolution; obsession with or affinity for evil; specifically : worship of Satan marked by the travesty of Christian rites
13. homosexuality---no basis in evolution; erotic activity with another of the same sex
14. criminality---no basis in evolution; the quality or state of being criminal
15. cannibalism---no basis in evolution; the usually ritualistic eating of human flesh by a human being
16. witchcraft---no basis in evolution; he use of sorcery or magic

Evolution: a theory that the various types of animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations

If you're going to bring the weak sauce you should at least preface your remarks with terms such as "I think" or "My opinion is" or "It could be that". Don't embarrass yourself by presenting ignorance as fact.

old comment by boobiesandexplosions

Harmful philosophies based on evolution

1 to 3: very little to no connection
4: yes, look at Iraq
5: science makes no comment on the supernatural
6: OH NOES, they actually care about humans instead of the Holy Pie in the Sky
7: Pat Robertsons huge fortune disagrees
8: And Christians never break their own moral code, like that time when John Hagee didn't get divorced from his wife. Ow wait..
9: ??? you mean the pursuit of knowledge is evil? Some cured cancer patients would like to have a word with you.
10 to 13: little to no connection
14: finally, a somewhat fair point is being made, though this type of "darwinism" stems from a very distorted notion of evolution. For instance, when darwin talked about races, he meant humans versus for instance chimpansees, not blacks versus whites.
15: ???
16: evolution has nothing to say about psychology. It only explains the diversity of life.

Evil practices based on evolution

None of these make any sense or have any connection whatsoever, but anyways:

1. A cloth hanger is way better than a controlled medical enviroment, huh, mr. creation tips
2. Ask Mr. Haggard
4. see 14 above
7. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. oh dear.
9. look out. people controlling their own life and death, instead of needlessly dying a painful death
10. really? I thought global warming was a hoax and stuff?
13. *cough* http://www.slate.com/id/2194232/ *cough*
by the way, why is this evil?
14. Christians, muslims, jews, hindus etc. commit absolutely no crimes, never, especially not in the Middle-East.
Oh wait, that stuff is 'blessed'.

disclaimer: I'd like to repeat once more that all of the above has no conection to evolution whatsoever, unless mentioned.
disclaimer: [citation needed], fundies

kthxbai

old comment by JESUS PLEASE COME SOON!

1. Communism - Wrong, capitalism is actually closer in line with the "survival of the fittest" concept.
2. Nazism - Wrong. This was based on Hitler's personal prejudices.
3. Racism - Wrong. Religion has caused far more racism than anything else.
4. Imperialism - Wrong. Again, religion is to blame.
5. Atheism - Sort of correct, although evolution doesn't blatantly state that there is no god. In any case, atheism is hardly a harmful philosophy.
6. Humanism So? Since when is caring for other human beings harmful?
7. Materialism Wrong. Money led to materialism.
8. Amoralism Wrong. Evolution doesn't tell us to drop our morals.
9. Scientism "Scientism"? You're just making shit up now.
10. Pantheism Uh... no. Pantheism has nothing to do with evolution.
11. Monopolism Again, money is to blame for this one.
12. Anarchism No, being an angry rebellious teenager causes anarchism.
13. Occultism Science states that any kind of supernatural belief is false.
14. Social Darwinism Made up words?
15. Behaviorism That's psychology, not evolution.
16. Freudianism Ditto.

1. abortion Has nothing to do with ToE.
2. drug culture Same.
3. promiscuity Third time... is not the charm.
4. eugenics A stupid practice created by idiots who didn't understand evolution, and felt the need to try to take it into their own hands. Plus, eugenics was around for centuries before evolution was ever in the picture.
5. pornography
6. genocide
7. chauvinism
8. New-Agism
9. euthanasia
10. pollution
11. bestiality
12. Satanism
13. homosexuality
14. criminality
15. cannibalism
16. witchcraft

None of these things have anything to do with evolution.

Moron.

old comment by MMA figher

Harmful philosophies based on evolution

1. Communism -no
2. Nazism -maybe
3. Racism -no
4. Imperialism -no
5. Atheism -has nothing to do with it
6. Humanism -no, and that's not even anti-religious
7. Materialism -no
8. Amoralism -not even a fucking word
9. Scientism -not even a fucking word
10. Pantheism -no
11. Monopolism -not even a fucking word
12. Anarchism -no
13. Occultism -no
14. Social Darwinism -actually no
15. Behaviorism -no, and what the hell is wrong with that?
16. Freudianism -no, and how the fuck is that evil?

Evil practices based on evolution

1. abortion -no
2. drug culture -not even close
3. promiscuity -no
4. eugenics -no
5. pornography -how the hell is that connected??
6. genocide -no
7. chauvinism -no
8. New-Agism -not even a word, and hardcore new agers don't believe in evolution
9. euthanasia -how?
10. pollution -how?
11. bestiality -WTF??
12. Satanism -no
13. homosexuality -actually that would be directly OPPOSED to evolution
14. criminality -not even a fucking word
15. cannibalism -WTF??
16. witchcraft -doesn't even exist

old comment by Lithp

Harmful philosophies based on religion:

Though it ended up supporting religion, communism is neither harmful nor religious in nature.
2. Nazism
3. Racism
4. Imperialism
Atheism is not harmful, nor is it religious.
Humanism is not harmful.
Materialism is not harmful.
8. Immorality
Scientism is not a word. Science is not harmful.
I'm gonna step out on a limb here and say pantheism isn't harmful.
11. Monopolism
12. Anarchism
13. Occultism
Social Darwinism is ours, though I doubt many of the people who defended themselves with it really believed in evolution.
The FUCK is Behaviorism?
PSYCHOLOGY is harmful now? Oh, I get it, you want us to crucify people and go, "Repent or die."

Evil does not exist. Practices that have nothing to do with evolution:

1. abortion====Not my body, not my problem.
2. drug culture====Yes, I must've missed that biology textbook that said, "drugs help you to live long and procreate more."
3. promiscuity====A result of a person's natural sex drive. Didn't your God say "be fruitful and multiply"?
4. eugenics====I'm not even sure what eugenics is.
5. pornography====Again, has to do with a person's sex drive.
6. genocide====Crusades, Inquisition, Holocaust, Burning Times, persecution of Buddhists in Vietnam, all Christianity. Take your pick.
7. chauvinism====FYI, the Bible says man is better than woman.
8. New-Agism====The fuck?
9. euthanasia====You're blaming evolution because Mr. Whiskers had to be put down?
10. pollution====Just because 'evolution' and 'industrial revolution' rhyme, it doesn't mean they're related.
11. bestiality====Yes, because biology class won't tell you that DIFFERENT SPECIES CANNOT PROCREATE WITH EACH OTHER.
12. Satanism====Satan's fiction and wouldn't exist without Christianity.
13. homosexuality====Again, must've missed the textbook that says, "gay people can reproduce using parthenogenesis."
14. criminality====USE REAL WORDS, MOTHER FUCKER! And watch Most Evil. Like 90% of 'em are Christian.
15. cannibalism====Ed Gein comes to mind.
16. witchcraft====Fuck, you're stupid.
17. FSTDT commenting====Okay, I added this one, but this comment was a pain in the ASS.

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