Do you know that if you make an endeavor to find out when and by whom atheism was authored you will not be able to find such information from any source? Not even the most “educated” atheists - particularly those associated with the most elite universities throughout the world can truthfully inform you when and by whom atheism originated. They can enlighten you as to who were its main perpetuators in different cultures; but they cannot identify its founder and when it actually originated.
The absence of a known author and time of origin of such a highly embraced philosophy is a strange phenomenon. But this phenomenon is highly indicative. It suggests that atheism is not of earthly origin - that it had its birth in another sphere before this state of time. Atheism is not a manmade doctrine but a doctrine of the demons. Its originator is none other than the old serpent himself, namely, satan. It had its origin from the very one it deceptively denies exists. It is a doctrine which denies the authorship and existence of its own author! This accounts for the absence of information in any literature embraced by atheists that identify both a human author and earthly time of origin for atheism.
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"It suggests that atheism is not of earthly origin - that it had its birth in another sphere before this state of time. Atheism is not a manmade doctrine but a doctrine of the demons."
Hmm... a belief not of earthly origin... now, where have I heard that one before?
First off, atheism is neither doctrine nor religion. You fail.
And it never occurred to you that atheism is something people have arrived at on their own through-out the centuries?
Ohh, right. To the functionally retarded, demons are responsible for everything they don't like.
Atheists are people who think the idea of a god is pointless.
Atheism is the understanding that the idea of a god is pointless.
Two paragraphs of painfully stilted prose, are thus pointless.
So uh, wait. Are you implying then that Christianity has an earthly origin?
Would not an unearthly origin be superior to earthly origin, even in Christian doctrine?
You pwned yourself there, unknown fool.
The absence of a known author and time of origin of such a highly embraced philosophy is a strange phenomenon. But this phenomenon is highly indicative. It suggests that the Bible is not of earthly origin - that it had its birth in another sphere before this state of time. The Bible is not a manmade doctrine but a doctrine of the demons. Its originator is none other than the old serpent himself, namely, satan. It had its origin from the very one it deceptively claims it opposes. It is a doctrine which denies the authorship of its own author! This accounts for the absence of information in any literature embraced by fundies that identify both a human author and earthly time of origin for the Bible.
OMG, that made me laugh. But remember, it's not meant to mean anything to someone who's not indoctrinated. I guess if he can get anyone to listen to him, and put a coin in the plate as it passes, power to him.
"It is a doctrine which denies the authorship and existence of its own author! "
Well, only the true messiah denies his own divinity, I thought. And maybe, the 'so called' experts are really the experts.
You may have a point, Unknown, but I think it is important to point out that demons are not atheists. The Book of James, chapter 2, tells us that "even the demons believe there is one God, and shudder." The demons are aware of God and know that they will one day face His wrath.
I can tell you who the earthly founder of atheism is - Buddha. Buddha originated the atheistic philosophy (as well as humanism and secular psychology) and organized atheism into a coherent religion. It is very possible that Buddha was demon possessed. This slovenly man made it his life's mission to destroy any belief in God. I feel sorry for Buddha; he must be in the very darkest depths of hell.
I can understand that for someone, who firmly believes that god, 6000 years ago, made humans for his own pleasure it might sound alien that atheism and not theism is the natural default doctrine.
"He was a wise man who originated the idea of God."
-Euripides (Greek philospher 484-406 B.C.E)
"It was fear that first bought gods into the world."
-Petronnius Arbiter (Roman novelits 66 C.E.)
"Since the masses of the peple are inconstant, full of unruly desires, passionate, and reckless of consequence, they must be filled with fears to keep them in order. The ancients did well, therefore, to invent gods, and the belief in punishment after death."
-Polybius (203-120 B.C.E Greek Historian)
No one has an exact date of the first signs of doubt in someone's mind but it's been around for a long time.
What is the exact date of the first ancient religion? Who knows? We will never know. But religion too has been around a long time.
So you really aren't proving anything one way or another.
I stopped trying to glean any actual meaning from this cr*p some time ago.
However: the spelling in this one is quite good, and the grammar is better than average.
I'm scared.
I think the fundies are evolving. <*strange noise*>
RIP stoat100 - killed by irony.
No one founded atheism because it's not a religion with particular beliefs. It's default, as dpareja said.
Anything you guys don't like is claimed to be the work of Satan, anyway.
Okay, we don't know who created atheism. So what? Does that make it wrong?
BTW: That's one poorly-slapped-together website.
Atheism has no author? No sh@t, Sherlock! You do not need a textual authority to not believe in the supernatural. If you think otherwise, I hope you know who is responsible for the opinion that there are no intelligent alien lifeforms abducting hicks and random animals for bizarre experiments, otherwise it is obviously an untenable position, and we should eagerly await our extraterrestial overlords.
@Messianic Servant:
I'm getting that you don't care too much for Buddhism. Yet...it doesn't seem like you know too much about it either. I guess ignorance has never stopped anyone from blindly hating something before, though.
MessianicServant: Go back to the library. Atheism was a main tenant of the Carvaka philosophy in India hundreds of years before the Buddha. As others have mentioned, it was also an element in Greco-Roman philosophies that were unlikely to have had any contact with Buddhism. Plus cultures which clearly had never heard of Siddhartha Gautama Shakyamuni developed atheist philosophies.
You're waaaaaay out of your league here.
With this amount of stupid in two paragraphs, I can understand why you posted anonymously as Unknown.
People learn about religion. It's not a inborn like hair color or eye color, you nitwit. You could say that all humans are born atheist and learn to be Christian/Muslim/Jewish etc etc.
Maybe its because atheists believe in making an individual choice about religion, and therefore, don't push their ideas on anyone else and force them to believe it. There really isn't any single originator for many ideas in history, such as the idea that bringing lots and lots of people to kill each other will make one man's penis bigger than another's (war), so why does atheism have to have one?
MessianicServant, have you ever actually read any Buddhist texts? Or anything about Buddhism that isn't looking through a distorted kooky-right lens?
The historical Buddha wasn't the tubby neo-Taoist figure you see in ersatz Chinese restaurants. Today he would have been considered underweight, given his regime of fasting and moderation. It's not called the "Middle Way" for nothing, but by today's standards classical Buddhism is very austere.
Do you know that if you make an endeavor to find out when and by whom atheism was authored you will not be able to find such information from any source?
Gee, I wonder what could ever cause that?
Oh right, atheism doesn't have an "author" because IT IS NOT A RELIGION.
"Do you know that if you make an endeavor to find out when and by whom breathing was created you will not be able to find such information from any source? Not even the most “educated” breathers - particularly those associated with the most elite universities throughout the world can truthfully inform you when and by whom breathing originated. They can enlighten you as to who were its main perpetuators in different cultures; but they cannot identify its founder and when it actually originated.
The absence of a known originator and time of origin of such a highly embraced activity is a strange phenomenon. But this phenomenon is highly indicative. It suggests that breathing is not of earthly origin - that it had its birth in another sphere before this state of time. Breathing is not a manmade activity but a practice of the demons. Its originator is none other than the old serpent himself, namely, Satan*. It had its origin from the very one it deceptively denies exists. It is an activity which denies the origination and existence of its own originator! This accounts for the absence of information in any literature embraced by breathers that identify both a human founder and earthly time of origin for breathing."
Atheism is the default. It is not an organized religion. Its only doctrine is the lack of a deity. Anyone, anywhere, can be an atheist, regardless of any tutelage they may have received. The only thing that is necessitated to be an atheist is to either reject or simply not be introduced to religion. Though technically to be aware that you are such necessitates knowledge of religion, so truly the origin of atheism as a concept is religion. To put it bluntly, the author of atheism is the same author as the first religion.
Assuming you're right, and atheism is a doctrine of demons, then god is a demon. Good job sir.
P.S. Satan's a proper noun, dumbass.
person born without belief
person indoctrinated into a belief
person reasons out the belief is bullshit and becomes an atheist
NOW:
pre-1700*
person keeps it quiet or gets murdered by religious state
1700 - 1850
person labels self as free-thinker but receives impediments to career and social standing
1850 - 1950
person admits to atheism but receives same as "free-thinker"
1950 ->
person proclaims atheism, but while receiving some impediments (more in the US) is respected, and situation improves as time goes on
UNTIL THE FUNDIES GET HOLD OF POWER AGAIN!!
*all dates for illustration only
There is, logically, no such thing as atheism. It is itself, insofar as it can be said to exist, an absence .
Some people believe in a deity or deities or higher powers; I don't. That doesn't make my position a belief. Indeed, it is the very opposite. It is an absence of belief. It is in fact nothing.
And nothing cannot have an author, or a time of origin, or any of the other attributes that this glib but unutterably irrational 'unknown' fool ascribes to it.
fergus
Beyond the first sentence, I don't need to read any more. Your ignorance is astounding. Your understanding of the world around you is lacking. No one needs an author to not believe in something. Your world revolves around a book authored by many and your inability to get your nose out of it prevents you from seeing that not every aspect of life fits into your box of how it works.
or maybe, since you don't need a guidebook to be an atheist, there isn't one. You know, just a possibility.
To know who authored atheism you need to look at atheism's cannon, it's sourcebook.
Since none exists there's no author.
No one knows who it was who first realized that 1 + 1 = 2, therefore mathematics is OF THE DEVIL!!!!
Shall we continue this silly game, or can you see how stupid you assertion is?
It's not really strange, as atheism is just a lack of belief in deities and supernatural beings. The origins are probably about as far in the past as humanity. As soon as the first humanoid envisioned the existence of supernatural beings, there was a humanoid beside him going "erm, are you sure about that?".
It was athenor the paramecium.
When Bruce the bacterium said "I think God wants us to take over the world" athenor replied I dont believe in your God.
Hark unto the first atheist
Then he said "Whats a God! "
Congratulations! By your logic, Christianity is not the natural state of humanity. How? You implied that it was, at one point, created, and "natural" assumes no creator.
Yeah, just as no-one can inform you who invented the hobby of not-collecting-stamps. It was probably a demon too, as it must be a very, very long time ago. Stamps are a fairly recent invention, so the one inventing not-collecting-stamps must have been around when humans were first created...
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