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Some facts about different religions

Judaism: The word 'Bible' is not in the Bible. Moses never preached any religion by the name of 'Judaism'. The word 'Judaism' doesn't even exist in the Bible. If this is the case then where did the names like 'Judaism' and ‘Bible’ come from? And what religion did Moses preach? If it was not Islam (surrender to God’s Will) then what is?

Christianity: Jesus didn't have any idea about the book call 'New Testament'! He never preached any religion by the name of 'Christianity'. The word 'Christianity' doesn't exist anywhere in the Bible (OT & NT). Even Jesus never heard the word 'Jesus' during his lifetime! He never preached irrational doctrines like Trinity and original sin. The word 'Trinity' doesn't exist in the New Testament. Jesus himself never claimed to be God. It is also an absurdity. He never told his followers to worship him. In fact, he used to pray to God (Matthew 26:39, 14:23). Where did the words like 'Christianity' and 'Trinity' come from then? And what religion did Jesus preach? If it was not Islam (surrender to God’s Will) then what is? Well, there is solid evidence in the New Testament that Jesus used to preach Islam. The Arabic word ‘Islam’ means “surrender to God’s Will”. One who surrenders his/her will to the Will of God is called Muslim. Jesus also surrendered his will to the Will of God (Father), and as such he was a Muslim (in Faith) and probably a Jew (in race):

Raihan, FFI 38 Comments [6/16/2008 2:45:22 PM]
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#544305
Eden

Perhaps the word "Judaism" and "Christianity" is absent from the old and new testament, but also is "Islam" ;)

6/16/2008 3:00:13 PM

#544311
Toffee

Well whatever Jesus did he was still a skypixie-loving fruitcake, but at least this guy tries to make a rational point without resorting to burning-in-the-fires-of-hell histrionics. Although he does get a bit circular and confused.

I'm not even sure whose side he's on?

6/16/2008 3:03:50 PM

#544321
F.O.D

"Even Jesus never heard the word 'Jesus' during his lifetime!"

What, did nobody talk to him or something? Poor guy.

6/16/2008 3:08:01 PM

#544339
Grigadil

I think what Raihan is trying to say, is that everyone who was sucking god's ass in any of that heathen judaic scripture, is automatically a muslim, and that includes Abraham-with-a-knife-at-his-son's-throat.

6/16/2008 3:18:13 PM

#544341
Ryushikaze

Even Jesus never heard the word 'Jesus' during his lifetime!

That would have made his formative years very difficult.

Otherwise, standard fundie madlibbery, with an islamic as opposed to christian bent.

6/16/2008 3:18:56 PM

#544348
Alex B.

To bad the word Judaism is found in the Bible, in many of the minor prophets

6/16/2008 3:23:19 PM

#544361
Shann

Even Jesus never heard the word 'Jesus' during his lifetime!

Then how did his parents get his attention or call him to dinner - 'hey you'?!

6/16/2008 3:26:25 PM

#544366
libber

At least he isn't a rabid, bloodthristy fundie, just a bit of a confused one.

6/16/2008 3:27:04 PM

#544369
Blayze Kohime

Great points, you missed all the equally relevant and nearly identical points about Islam.

@ Shann : Such bad parenting might explain why he grew up to be a drunkard and a vagabond.

6/16/2008 3:28:11 PM

#544396
Tallon

What a Christian would say: Jesus never mentioned "rape" but that doesn't make rape okay.

Not that I'm a Christian. XD

6/16/2008 3:35:21 PM

#544433
John_in_Oz

It's easy enough to infer he meant to make the true claim that Jesus never heard the word "Christ" in His lifetime. I haven't been able to verify AlexB's claim that the word 'Judaism' is in the old testament, but Bible Gateway does show it as being in use in the new testament; contrary to Raihan's claim: http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=Judaism&searchtype=all&version1=31&spanbegin=1&spanend=73

The claim that Jesus taught Islam is pretty surprising- he never mentioned a trip to Mecca, a direction to pray, a required number of times to pray, the name Mohammed, and Jesus is not listed as having used the word 'submission' in the New International Version.
So basically- FAIL


6/16/2008 3:47:30 PM

#544445
Illuminatalie

Yes, Jesus was a Jewish Muslim. Now go away.

6/16/2008 3:52:24 PM

#544506
Alfred

What???????

6/16/2008 4:28:06 PM

#544520
R. Sherman

So let me get this straight:

Jesus never mentioned Judaism or Christianity, therefore he wasn't a Jew or a Christian.

Therefore, Jesus was a Muslim.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot times 10.

6/16/2008 4:35:49 PM

#544529
Falconer

Jesus could have been a Hindu, you know.

If not A or B, why automatically C when there's D, E, F, G, etc?

6/16/2008 4:41:13 PM

#544530


um...

what

6/16/2008 4:41:59 PM

#544575
ID82

Well right if it's not one thing then it has to be islam right?

6/16/2008 5:38:54 PM

#544587
aaa

That's a lot of world salad.

6/16/2008 5:45:16 PM

#544589
Xotan

Idiot. Islam wasn't revealed to Muhammad until six and a half centuries after Jesus time - assuming Jesus ever existed. How could Jesus, then, have been a Muslim?

As to Christians/anity not being mentioned in the New Testament:

The first known usage of the term ???st?a??? (khristianos) can be found in the New Testament, in Acts 11:26: "the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch." (Wikipedia)

If there were Christian, then there was Christianity.

6/16/2008 5:46:13 PM

#544625
anonymous_troy

Don't all Abrahamic religions submit themselves to the Will of God too?

Also, Islam technically translates as "peace"

Yeah, Jesus was Jewish by race, but he extended Judaism to Christianity, so arguably followed Christianity [albeit without the messiah, since he wasn't saving himself]

6/16/2008 6:07:32 PM

#544665
ixolite

Also, Islam technically translates as "peace"

Even in case of being "pedantic" again, Islam translates to submission. ;)

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/notislam/misconceptions.html#HEADING1

6/16/2008 6:58:01 PM

#544672
doomie 22

The word "Star Wars" is never said in Star Wars, so who named is anyway?

6/16/2008 7:07:00 PM

#544716
Metatron

And if he existed, as much an idiot as any other Jewish Muslim to believe in it all.

6/16/2008 7:55:01 PM

#544789
Old Viking

On a scale of cosmic importance this ranks with sweetened or unsweetened ice tea.

6/16/2008 9:02:46 PM

#544881
tmr

The word bible is not a Hebrew word, so why would it be written in English in an original Hebrew manuscript? The same can be said of the word Judaism.

The Arabic word Islam is in the Arabic holy book, the Koran.

If you are incapable of realizing this, then you are incapable of making any kind of point.

6/16/2008 10:04:03 PM
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