Your "science" and "knowledge " isn`t gonna help you when your dead. Typical of you atheists. You don`t want to hear the other side. No debate, you are a narrow minded person who has tunnel vision. Do you think that it is fair ?? Yes, science has given us many wonderful inventions, but it has also been a curse. In the 50`s, TV wouldn`t even show Elvis Presley below the waist because he "swiveled" his hips. Now look at the filth on TV.
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You can`t talk to you people. You people jump down a Christian`s throat like a pack of wolves. and YOU call Christians "arrogant" ?? lol...look in the mirror. You`re pathetic. What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead ?? bring you back to life ??? lol. Look at the big picture. Quit being an ass.
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"You can`t talk to you people. You people jump down a Christian`s throat like a pack of wolves. and YOU call Christians "arrogant" ?? lol...look in the mirror. You`re pathetic. What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead ?? bring you back to life ??? lol. Look at the big picture. Quit being an ass."
WE jump down throats like a pack of wolves? WE call you people arrogant? Oh my, what a lovely shiny mirror you have. Do you think that a sick, twisted god, created by some bronze age goat herders is going to give you eternal life? Why don't YOU jump back into reality. Quit being a fool.
"You don`t want to hear the other side. No debate, you are a narrow minded person who has tunnel vision. Do you think that it is fair"
I have heard the other side over and over again. I have given you much leeway. I even go so far as to tolerate your intolerance, and give special privilege to your beliefs that you do not give to anyone else. So, I assume that what you are seeing is a shiny mirror.
And seriously, your example of evil science ruining everything is immoral TV shows? Pathetic.
"You people jump down a Christian`s throat like a pack of wolves"
Imagery...does not compute...error...error...
"What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead"
What do you think that the Bible is going to do for you after you're buried six feet under? What good is your religion if you do not presuppose that it is infallibly correct and magical?
"Look at the big picture. Quit being an ass"
Hell of an argument. Excellent debate. Might I propose that you do the same, however?
How did we get from dead atheists to Elvis? Fifties America was not the chocolate-box illustration you think it was. People were just as amoral, just as odd, cantankerous, idiotic, perverse, bigoted, and murderous as they are today and always have been. STFU, idjit, you haven't a fucking clue what you're talking about.
Once again, I'm reminded of Monty Python...
SIR BEDEVERE: And that, my liege, is how we know the earth to be banana-shaped.
ARTHUR: This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
"No debate, you are a narrow minded"
It is better be rationalist stubborn than psychorigid naive.
"What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead ?? bring you back to life ???"
Science doesn't bring back people to life, but your myth and childish belief aren't able to do what science is able to do.
"Your "science" and "knowledge " isn`t gonna help you when your dead."
Neither will your "religion" and "mythology." At least science accomplishes something while I'm alive.
"Yes, science has given us many wonderful inventions, but it has also been a curse. In the 50`s, TV wouldn`t even show Elvis Presley below the waist because he "swiveled" his hips. Now look at the filth on TV."
You realize there's more than one channel, don't you? Watch your Christian broadcasting bullshit if you don't like regular TV. That's why it's there, so that prudes like you wont be "offended" all the damned time.
"What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead ?? bring you back to life ??? lol."
Uh, it already does. On a regular basis in emergency rooms around the world. Granted, you can't be dead long and there can't be a hell of a lot wrong with you if you're going to stay alive but science does allow us to bring people back.
I suspect that in the future the length of time you can be "dead" will be much longer and a successful resuscitation will still be possible. All thanks to science.
You religious folk can pray over dead bodies until you're blue in the face. Let's see you resurrect one.
"Quit being an ass."
Indeed.
What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead ?? bring you back to life ???
You miss the point entirely. There is nothing after death; death is total cessation. It's what you do before death that's the important thing; indeed, it's the only thing. And science and rationalism can do a hell of a lot for the living, including allowing them to go on living for longer.
You'll be just as dead as me when the time comes and your god will be of no help to you whatsoever. But, if you want to live a delusional life while on this planet, far be it from me to give a rats ass.
"What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead ?? bring you back to life ??? lol."
Well, it does in ERs. I think someone said that already. and other than that, they're working on it. Everyone wants to live forever, for some reason.
I'm really surprised the line "the only good atheist is a dead one" didn't come up in this.
You can`t talk to you people. You people jump down a Christian`s throat like a pack of wolves. and YOU call Christians "arrogant" ?? lol...look in the mirror."
And this is the previous post from a "good Christian":
"Take your atheism, and your fucked up "logic" and bullshit "theories" and shove em up your shitty ass. You know, the one you haven`t wiped in a fucking month , you gay looking retarded little fuck. Boy. you people sure think you`re a bunch Einsteins running around...lol...pleeeeeease. I can`t wait until the day when somebody knock your smart ass off that pedestal you think you`re on."
But Christians aren't arrogant ... [/sarcasm]
"Yes, science has given us many wonderful inventions, but it has also been a curse. In the 50`s, TV wouldn`t even show Elvis Presley below the waist because he "swiveled" his hips. Now look at the filth on TV"
Science is responsible for this because?... Do you often blame everything you take offense to on science? Whenever you stub your toe, do you cry out obscenities cursing science? Are you just fucking brain dead?
"You people jump down a Christian`s throat like a pack of wolves"
Brilliant analogy. Because if there is one thing that wolves are well known for, it's jumping down into people's throats. And an entire pack of them at once! Extraordinary creatures, those wolves.
Christians (fundies, anyway) think the entire universe was created especially for them and they will have eternal reward.
Atheists think they are the result of some fortunate cosmic coincidence.
Who's arrogant, now?
What can science do for you after you're dead? That depends on whether you want to risk having yourself put in cryonic storage in the hope that science (specifically medical science) will advance enough to bring you back to life. Hey, when the other option is to just get buried/cremated/whatever and never get another shot at life, it seems like an interesting gamble if nothing else.
I don't expect science to bring me back to life, asshat. You, however, expect eternal life from your fairy tale god.
"If I am, than death is not. If death is, I am not. Why then should I fear that which cannot exist while I do?" Death is (as several people have said) a termination of existence. The point beyond which "I" "myself" do not exist. There are things I want to do in this lifetime. But I don't fear death, just regret that it has to happen; and those regrets aren't going to bother me once I'm dead.
"What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead ?? bring you back to life ???"
Actually....There was that dog that had gotten its head cut off that they brought back. Or maybe that was an urban legend.
But still, science is making strides on understanding how the life process works, and being able to prolong it and ultimately one day, yes, they'll be able to "bring you back to life".
Your "rapture" and "god" isn't gonna help you when your dead. (They also don't help you with grammar.) You don't even understand the other side. Yes science has given us many wonderful inventions, like cures for diseases. Science keeps you from being dead in the first place. What does your myth do when you're sick, tell you how to drive away evil spooks? lol.
1. But it helps you when you live. Otherwise we would still be in the stone age. And with no internet.
2. Wolves do not jump down people's throats. Its an important semantic that will become all to clear when you are being attacked by wolves.
3. Science gave us many wonderful inventions. I presume you were either born in 45 or are 45... Without science, more than likely you would have died a fair fair while ago. So don't tell us about "science" not doing anything for mankind.
Remember, Mother Theresa's claim of saving hundreds of thousands of people can be outperformed by the discoverers/inventors of vaccination, radiation, antibiotics and the green revolution.
Since science gave us TV, wouldn't it be science's right to decide what's done on TV?
you belive god gave us the world and he (has you) decide what can be on earth?
...I'm currently doing a philosophy course on which we are required to consider both sides of the argument, which I enjoy doing. I've taken the 'God exists' stance in debates before. I'll happily consider the other side. You have to consider the other side and evaluate it in order to properly disagree.
You, on the other hand, probably know only the bare bones of the scientific theories you so persistently deny.
"You`re pathetic."
Oh the irony. It hurts.
Contradictions in a nutshell:
a)what does Elvis not being show from waist downwards have to do with science since, without science, he wouldn't be shown in television and censured TO BEGIN WITH?, and how do you dare to write it in a computer and in the net?.
b)disagreeing is now jumping in other person's throat?.
Nothing is going to help me when I'm dead. Nothing is going to hinder me either, as I won't exist anymore.
I hope science is going to make life easier for people, cure diseases, help us feed our overpopulated Earth, increase quality of life. You see; I, unlike you, think about more than just myself.
"Your "science" and "knowledge " isn`t gonna help you when your dead."
- Science can go a long way in putting off death. Certainly a lot more than prayer.
"Typical of you atheists. You don`t want to hear the other side."
- Typical of you Christians. You don't want to hear about Allah's wonderful plan for your life.
"Do you think that it is fair ??"
- Reality provides no solid evidence for deities. Fair or not, it is a fact.
"TV wouldn`t even show Elvis Presley below the waist because he "swiveled" his hips. Now look at the filth on TV."
- And science is to blame for this cultural shift...how exactly?
"Look at the big picture."
- I am. I realize that my life is short. I am going to make the most of it, and try to have the most positive impact I can, while it is going on. As superstition offers nothing that can enhance that plan, I summarily reject it.
What do you think Science is going to do for you after you`re dead ?? bring you back to life ??? lol. Look at the big picture. Quit being an ass.
Hmm, lessee, people brought back from death:
Jesus: One
Defibrillators: Millions and still counting
Now who made the modern defibrillator possible; here's a hint, it starts with an "S" ends at an "e" and has a "cienc" in the middle. Now, time to take your own candid advice.
*makes no clear arguments, only word salads and insults*
*still calls people arrogant while strutting around, thinking he's victorious in debate*
chess with a pigeon analogy, anyone?
Science will help me just as much after I'm dead as it did before I was born. Not one iota, that is. Eventually, if we don't destroy the Earth or push ourselves to extinction first, we will be able to bring people back to life, but not in my lifetime.
I AM looking at the big picture; the picture that won't have me in it, and I want my nephews and nieces and their children and grandchildren to be able to live good, prosperous lives.
In cinemas in the 50's in Sweden, the below movie was shown. I find it very far from filth, today's "reality TV" and soap-operas are much filthier, in my opinion.
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And when you - like we Atheists after we die - are doing an impression of leftover pizza: cold, clotted, and stuck to the bottom of a box, a question: where is your God now ?!
Prove that the 'soul' exists first, empirically . Aye, there's the rub...! >:D
On behalf of science, I'd like to see your peer-reviewed paper on life after death, with a complete list of photos of both heaven and hell. Evidence matters. You wouldn't want to just spout lies and expect them to be believed without evidence, would you?
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