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[Isn't this [referring to slavery] the least noble aspect in American history? What aspect could be less noble than owning another man and his children?]

Killing unborn babies?

Philip J. Rayment, Conservapedia talk page: Slavery 36 Comments [5/28/2008 11:42:29 PM]
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dpareja

How about denying civil rights on the basis of genetic makeup?

5/28/2008 11:45:56 PM

Adrian

Eliminating larvae can hardly be compared to the horrific slavery that occured in American history.

5/28/2008 11:49:26 PM

Funnyguts

Wow. You have to make everything about what you want, huh?

5/28/2008 11:53:29 PM

Berny

What can we expect?
It's Conservatardia. A veritable bastion of stupid.
While there might be some merit to certain conservative ideas, you won't find any here.

5/29/2008 12:24:16 AM

Mike

Because fetuses are like conglomerates. Both are treated as people. XP

5/29/2008 12:37:01 AM

Robbie

If it's "unborn", it's not a baby.

5/29/2008 12:40:17 AM

tmr

So, aborting a bunch of unwanted cells is worse than forcing already living human beings into bondage?

You people are beyond backwards.

5/29/2008 12:41:04 AM

Osiris

So killing something that isn't born is worse then owning someone who has been.

Get your priorities fixed man!

5/29/2008 12:51:41 AM



You can't kill something that is not yet alive.

5/29/2008 1:04:24 AM

anevilmeme

Mr Head meet Mr Desk, Mr Desk meet Mr Head.

5/29/2008 1:45:10 AM

Old Viking

What the hell is an "unborn baby"?

5/29/2008 1:52:55 AM

Zankou

Again, I don't see the problem.

I find abortion o be much less honorable than slavery.

Slavery is wrong, abortion is wrong, neither is honorable.

Abortion should be legal, but not honorable.


He's right.

5/29/2008 2:19:42 AM

Chamale

Zankou: Abortion shouldn't be an honourable thing, that's true, but you say it's worse than slavery? AYFH? A fetus has no rights, nor does it have feelings. Slavery is easily the worst human rights violation in US history, and one of the worst in the world's history.

5/29/2008 2:24:59 AM

Sofia.

A 4 week old embryo is not a baby. It cannot feel, think, or experience. Abortion certainly isn't something anyone should be proud of, but it is hardly comparable to the torture, abuse and lack of civil rights given to slaves. A slave can feel. A slave can think. You can't tell me that a small cluster of cells, no matter how vaguely human shaped it is, has the same rights as a fully formed human being.

5/29/2008 2:50:02 AM

Wet Walnuts

Does anyone ever actually use Conservapedia as a reference source? Seriously, I want to know.

5/29/2008 3:21:14 AM

Zankou

Not worse, less honorable. I phrased that poorly

The slaves in the Bible were reasonably well treated, though.

Black slaves, not so much.




5/29/2008 3:24:05 AM

Sheik yer Bouti

Sorry, wrong
Abortion is a blessing; a mitzvah.

It frees a woman of a life threatening parasite.

If a woman chooses to host the parasite, to allow this thing to use HER organs to survive, that is her choice.

But the temerity os saying that abortion is not honorable is to dishonor yourself.

In the bible, slaves raped to death, holes punched in their body, locked in a room to live out their lives, mothers, fathers, brothers, married sisters all killed and the virgins kept for rape at leisure.

Wow that sounds wonderful!

5/29/2008 4:08:37 AM

CalcSwamiS

First, they're not babies, they're fetuses. They don't even think, so I'd hardly classify they as true human beings. Abortion kills groups of cells that, while biologically human, don't contain any of the meaningful traits that human beings posess.

Second, slavery involves a complete stripping of the rights of another human being, to the extent that they become "property" and are not much better than some animal.

How is the first possibly worse than the second?!

5/29/2008 4:18:38 AM

approximate

Spoken like a true walking abortion.

5/29/2008 4:36:28 AM

revolt

I agree with Zankou, but that's what I get for being pro-life.

5/29/2008 6:20:32 AM

aaa

Time to troll them. Again.

5/29/2008 9:50:46 AM

stogoe

Zankou said:
Abortion should be legal, but not honorable.

Revolt, this is a pro-choice position. If you agree with what Zankou said, you are pro-choice. You're still kooky, but you're pro-choice nonetheless. Please don't give cover to the forced-childbirth and anti-contraception lobbies.

5/29/2008 2:23:36 PM

Xotan

But the Bible advocates killing one's own children, and beating them with rods. It also approves of slavery. So what's your beef?

5/29/2008 2:33:11 PM

anonymous_troy

Um... hmm.... Not quite.

5/29/2008 2:36:43 PM

Princess Rot

How the flying noodly fuck does aborting an insentient cluster of cells compare to enslaving entire families of sentient people?

Fundies - effing up logic since the beginning of time.

@Zankou, Revolt & stogoe: I doubt anyone feels proud after having an abortion. Relieved, maybe. Grateful, certainly. But not proud.

5/29/2008 4:14:04 PM

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