Sigh. Its been one of "those" days. Yesterday was the last day of school, and I let my oldest stay at one of his friends home. The dad is his Sunday School teacher....and we have known this family for a long time.....
Son comes home today and tells me that he watched "Stardust"
It is full of pagan rites and rituals, premarital sex, and lots of killing of animals to read their entrails. I asked if any adult watched the movie with them, and he said that the dad did(Sunday School teacher). I am so saddened....and ds has been crying since he came home....he says that he doesn't know what is really wrong...but the movie left him feeling horrible. What is with people? Are there no people left with the direction of the Holy Spirit to say..."THIS IS WRONG"?????????? BTW, my 11 yr old watched this, along with his 3 boys(11, 9, 7).
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The reason he was crying is because he was sheltered to the point of extremism and he could not emotionally handle reality. The outside world is never going to be safe and perfect. You will see objectionable material. You will experience problems. By blinding yourself with faith and ignorance, you ultimately set yourself up for a great disappointment.
That's why fundies cannot cope or tolerate others in the end. They are so caught up with the surrealness of their beliefs that upon being confronted with anything challenging they completely lose it.
I think it's almost like child abuse to shield your child to this level from reality ... I can't believe an 11 year old would cry over Stardust, that seems so fragile and unusual to me.
my 11 yr old watched this, along with his 3 boys(11, 9, 7).
This can't be what it sounds like, so what is he trying to say?
What's really sad is that an 11 year old is crying over this. Either he's been way too sheltered or his mom made him cry over it.
Unless he's really weird Mom freaked and made him cry over it, he probably loved it until he got home and was told how terrible it is. He might even be pretending to cry so mom won't be mad at him for enjoying it.
If he's that sheltered his mother needs to prepare him for teenage life. He's getting closer to the age when it's impossible to really control what they read and watch.
"my 11 yr old watched this, along with his 3 boys(11, 9, 7)."
Your 11 year old son has an 11 year old son?
Your 11-year-old has three sons? DAMN, I knew you people married kinda young, but...
This can't be what it sounds like, so what is he trying to say?
The above-quoted selection from the original fundie post contains poor and ambiguous sentence structure, but I submit that the "3 boys(11, 9, 7)" were the Sunday school teacher's kids, at whose house the horrible and satanic PG-13 material was watched by the overly fragile "ds".
The reason he was crying over the movie was because you've left him so sheltered he can't deal with anything.
Congratulations, your kid doesn't function correctly.
My parents let me watch British murder mysteries when I was a little kid. Let me tell you, some of those have incredibly violent murders (eg. a guy getting cut up with a chainsaw) and others are just plain creepy (eg. one where a doll would move its eyes when a person was about to get murdered). All things considered, I turned out okay.
I was just a kid when my dad let me watch Creepshow. All I came away with was a fear of cemetaries and cockroaches. I own the movie and watch it often, although I can't really look at the cockroach segment. >.>
But hey, at least my dad watched it with me!
If your 11 year old had been raised on the real world, the movie wouldn't have phased him in any way. Instead, you've created a naive child who has no grasp of reality, thus no coping mechanisms.
Raising woosies for Jesus.
You don't hear a lot about this movie, and that's a shame, because it's thoroughly enjoyable. I recommend it.
I also recommend some counseling for your son. He's seriously messed up.
Say, pal, there is really nothing entertaining on TV today, so as a favor to me can you ask your son--or one of his sons--to critique Robert De Niro’s performance as the cross-dressing, effeminate sky-pirate in Stardust...and then get back to us?
Thanks in advance.
Okay, the "his 3 boys" have got to be the Sunday School teacher's. Get some grammatical equality before you claim moral superiority, bitch.
Also, why are things like killing an animal or performing witchcraft being done by the bad guys still bad to watch? The good guys, who don't do much of anything immoral except for vanquish the bad guys (by being happy and in love, at that, not even by fighting them) win in the end, and you can say 'don't be bad, see what happens.' It's a sad day when people don't even want to let the villains do bad things.
1. It's a fantasy film. A work of fiction.
2. The pagan stuff - the reading of the entrails and the divination - is all done by the villains. Therefore it's hardly encouraging it, is it?
The hero is probably Christian, to be honest - he comes from Victorian England.
Your son sucks and will probably die if you ever let him go out into the real world. And for the record- my family and I LOVED the movie Stardust!
But, if this freaked your kid out, I'd love to know what his reaction to Pan's Labyrinth would be.
Hey, I just watched that movie again this weekend! And here I was thinking "Aww, nice movie about heroic boy who triumphs over adversity, defeats the villains, and finds his true love." I must have blinked during the horrible, disturbing, Satanic bits.
Damn, I would have adored Stardust when I was 11. Then again at that age I read King's IT and loved it to bits. Now that I think about it, it wasn't long afterward that I read my first Sandman comics by Gaiman.
Your kid really needs to broaden his horizons. Oh, and when you're more fundie than your Sunday School teacher, you know something is wrong.
this "dear son", "dear husband", "dear dog" crap really makes me want to vomit.
Truly.
I always assume that people love their family, I don't want the fluffy bits waved under my nose in a nauseating, exhibitionist manner (my daughter is dearer than yours!)
for the rest: "ds" (sic) will end up selling his bum for drug money
@hideous bitch goddess
"I think the only person crying over Stardust should be Neil Gaiman when he saw what they did to his book."
Thank you for proving that I'm not the only person who thought that. I know things have to be changed for the big screen but really... what were they thinking?!
I had watched all the friday the 13th, nightmare on elm street, halloween movies, etc way before I was 11 and I never once cried. Poor kid. I swear CPS needs to get IP addresses from all these psycho RR people and make a surprise visit to each of them.
Another vote for, "Fuck you, Stardust was fantastic!"
And yeah, this woman either made her kid feel horribly guilty for watching the movie, or she's raised him in such a way that he's abominably ill-equipped to deal with the outside world in a healthy fashion. Good job, in either case. *headdesk*
@penguin
My Boys grew up like you, my wife and I loved Horror movies so they saw the ones we liked many times over. Phantasm, Halloween (same year) when they were very young. Pumpkinhead, Prophecy, Exorcist, Evil Dead, 2001 and many others in their teens. Hell, they 'got' Clockwork Orange in their teens, it's a cautionary tale, they got it because it's easy to prepare them.
They're movies, they're not real, they are stories about things that can't happen or certainly haven't.
Now WW2 movies, we prepared them for those too, "some of that shit happened"
Well, I watched "The Haunting of Hill House" on my own when I was 10, and couldn't sleep for a week. But if a Sunday School teacher was watching the movie with ds, that should have softened the trauma.
I agree that fundie mothers seriously screw up their kids. I don't think we need further evidence.
One of "those" days? Does this happen often to you?
My mother was a Sunday School teacher for a short time when I was little. She never forced any religiosity onto us. Sure, we got to play with some of the stickers that the kids was getting, and we probably heard some of the stories, but none of us actually went to Sunday School.
Stardust made him cry? What kind of a wuss is he?
One bad person killed one animal to read its entrails, as far as I remember. It's hardly the meaning of the movie. It's not really pagan, as it's F A N T A S Y, dearie! That means that none of it is true, it's all make-belief.
I bet the horrible feeling he was having was because he knew that you would not approve of him watching a movie and having fun doing it.
What's whit the ds? Do you have one son that is darling son and one that is not, or what?
He cried because his parent has failed to raise him with a firm grasp of reality, so he is unable to distinguish fact from fantasy. You had ONE JOB, to turn a child into a thinking individual, and you have failed.
@Kanna
Not even a thinking individual, really. I mean, House of Light isn't thinking much.
She should have at least armored her kid to see that not everyone shares his values and yet not go to pieces...
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