Therefore as long as the church is here, we will fight and we will win. Until we are taken at the rapture, we are the final authority over morality.
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"we are the final authority over morality."
Based on one of the most immoral works of fiction I've ever known? And over your own god? You're suffering from a bad case of unwarranted self-importance, Pete.
Oh, HELL, no. No, no, NO. Neither you nor your little invisible friend have ANY authority over MY morality.
Yes...you are the final authority over morality....damn shame that you and your church are so bad at living up to your own standards, but so good at condemning every one else for being up to snuff in the arbitrary sectors of human life where you haven't completely faltered. You guys have got a nice racket.
@Terry Stroud: Even if by taking all the technology and science and reducing our competitors back to weapons more in concert with their supposed morals, we would probably lose. We are vastly out numbered and divided after all. It would be about a 4:1 ratio.
You may say, "But Demonaphia! They will be caught up fighting amongst themselves!" Perhaps, but if they have any intelligence at all whatsoever, they will correctly discern us as the biggest threat and team up against us. We might win though. Maybe. Either way, I doubt we'll have to worry about it. So long as we don't erupt into total armageddon, we will win, as we are slowly rising in the tolls.
Food laws that you don't follow, rape = marriage, stone your children to death, wipe your enemies from the face of the earth,...
Yeah, that's one hell of a moral book you have there.
@Demonaphia
if they have any intelligence at all whatsoever , they will correctly discern us as the biggest threat and team up against us.
So...atheists win then?
Because religious though I am, I admit we have very little intelligence on our side.
Demonaphia:
"You may say, "But Demonaphia! They will be caught up fighting amongst themselves!" Perhaps, but if they have any intelligence at all whatsoever, they will correctly discern us as the biggest threat and team up against us. "
They already did. The moral majority in 1980 was just such a teamup. The jews, mormons catholics and southern baptists decided modern society was a bigger threat to them that the other false religions.
How are you going to enforce that authority, if you don't believe in science?
Remember, you don't get to use any weapons developed since the Renaissance....
"we are the final authority over morality"
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It isn't WHAT fundamentalists believe, so much as their blinding, closeminded, piss-ignorant arrogance.
No, you won't. I'll tell you what, you keep going to church and letting it dictate your life, and I'll keep staying away from church and living my life as I see fit.
They're right about one thing: if it comes down to a straightforward atheism-vs.-religion, religion will win every time. Only some Western European countries and Communist/former Communist nations are majority atheist, and even many of those (e.g. Sweden) have an established church.
This is why we (=defenders of reason) have to make it clear that evolution, etc. are not incompatible with religion. Because if people really and honestly believe that, it will be rejected. Creationism isn't just American; it's going along with the rising tide of Islamic fundamentalism, not just in the Middle East, but eastern Asia too.
And how exactly do you plan to exert your so-called authority?
Through politics? Sorry, you are just a convenient pawn to your so-called "family values politicians." In the end, money is the only god they serve.
Through public appeal? Sorry, but the minute people realize just what you expect of them, they will avoid you and your message like the poison it is. In the end you will have nothing but a tiny core of fanatics, crying about how oppressed they are.
Through prayer? Try it and see how it works.
Frankly Peter, if the evidence is any clue, the exercising of your self-appointed authority is as much of a pipe dream as your Rapture.
"Therefore as long as the church is here, we will fight and we will win."
'Therefore as long as the pyramid temples are here, we will fight and we will win.'
-Mayan priest, pre-civilisational collapse
Does worship of Amun-Ra still go on in Egypt? Zeus in Greece? Jupiter in Rome? Even though their 'churches' still exist? Well, there y'go, Ruptured Retards.
...but worship of Rama, Shiva etc still goes on in India. And Hinduism existed way before Christianity. Therefore Hindu morality is superior to that of your nonexistent 'God':
'An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'
-Mohandas K. 'Mahatma' Gandhi
Another quote by him (emphasis added):
'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. '
Gandhi would say the same about you lot.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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