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[Originally Posted by Steezie
You didnt even read the link

So why do they still have these organs? Take whales, they have vestigial legs, they're useless for swimming and whales are FAR too big to walk, so the leg sizes must have changed over time....which sounds like evolution]

I know this stuff and don't like internet links. i've read it a thousand times.

The whales didn't evole but instantly adapted to new conditions. In fact probably within a creatures lifetime. So as long as the legs are out of the way there is no need for more atrophy. Same as birds who don't use their wings.
That few other creatures do not have vestigial organs is great evidence that they did not have different anatomical lives before. Like whales they would of kept bit and pieces of anything they no longer used.

RobertByers, ChristianForums 56 Comments [5/1/2008 2:08:18 AM]
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#482854
Patches

Within its lifetime? What, so the proto-whale jumped into the ocean and its hind legs instantly shrank?

Jeez, this is turning into another round of them claiming they believed the earth was round all along and science said it was flat, what with their constant spewing random nonsense and attributing it to our position.

5/1/2008 2:14:22 AM

#482860
Jud

Dumbass, Lamarkian evolution was disproved a fucking long time ago.

5/1/2008 2:19:25 AM

#482862
LordJiro

EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOODNIGHT!

Oh, wait. Also: Then why do BABY whales, when they are BORN have the vestigial limbs?

5/1/2008 2:19:57 AM

#482876
Jason

At the risk of being a grammar nazi... any point made using the phrase "would of" instead of "would have" is automatically wrong.

5/1/2008 2:39:04 AM

#482877
tmr

Step right up folks, step right up! For the first time ever, and the only place in the world, our show tent offers you instant evolution! Watch an animal instantly adapt to its environment before your very eyes. Brought to you by the world renowned man of intelligence, RobertByers!


5/1/2008 2:40:11 AM

#482880
John

The whales didn't evole but instantly adapted to new conditions. In fact probably within a creatures lifetime.

The whales decided they didn't need legs, so they altered their egg and sperm cells so their babies would be born without legs.

5/1/2008 2:42:18 AM

#482899
Old Viking

It's like when I adjust the thermostat: instant adaptation!

5/1/2008 2:53:03 AM

#482913
cyborgtroy

So you believe that if I performed surgery to replace your lungs with gills and thus forced you to live in the ocean, your legs and arms would 'adapt' [read: evolve] into flippers?

Genetics and the modern understanding of evolution disagree.

5/1/2008 2:59:30 AM

#482926
KathleenTheTerrible

Careful lighting a cigarette near this one. Methane is flammable.

5/1/2008 3:08:51 AM

#482931
Anon

If he's claiming that the whale's legs have simply atrophied, wouldn't that mean that with enough exercising and muscle training, the whales could get their legs back up to full strength to be able to walk on land again?

Oh wait, I forgot. This is all bullshit.

5/1/2008 3:11:30 AM

#482935
Annabella

Ending your science education with the historical reference to Lamarkian evolution doesn't make you an expert.

GO BACK TO CLASS!

5/1/2008 3:13:33 AM

#482939
vishnu save us

i like his use of the words "in fact". eeeehehehehehehe

5/1/2008 3:18:30 AM

#482959
Durane

Oh, hey, that's perfect. I'll just throw this guy into the water and he should sprout gills right away, no problem.

5/1/2008 3:31:13 AM

#482964
werewolf

This is just endlessly recycled bullshit.

5/1/2008 3:36:39 AM

#482983
Papabear

Robbie Byers! Does your mother know what you're doing? Turn off her computer immediately and go back to bed. Tomorrow's a school day.

5/1/2008 3:49:19 AM

#482984
KKK

Wait, what?

5/1/2008 3:50:00 AM

#483001
Osiris

You're basically arguing for the type of evolution that is a straw man used by other creationists to discredit evolution. This is just a new level of fail.

5/1/2008 4:03:10 AM

#483015
DCoke

When I was a kid I tumbled down some very high stairs, outside. Why didn't I evolve the ability to fly? God just doesn't like toddlers?

5/1/2008 4:23:20 AM

#483024
approximate

Instant evolution gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin'
Join the human race

5/1/2008 4:29:43 AM

#483036
funky fresh salad

A LINK? What is this nonsense?! TAKE IT AWAY!

From now on, NO MORE INTERNET LINKS!

5/1/2008 4:42:04 AM

#483039
DarkfireTaimatsu

"and don't like internet links"

Then what the fuck are you doing on the internet? Links are pretty essential, dumbass.

5/1/2008 4:45:17 AM

#483048
Antichrist

So why don't we instantly evolve when we move to a cold climate? Why don't I instantly evolve a fur coat? When I go swimming why don't I instantly evolve flippers?

Anyway the fact that we can't instantly evolve is used by fundies to dispute evolution. So please PICK A FUCKING ARGUMENT AND STICK TO IT!

5/1/2008 4:53:29 AM

#483111
BreeStar

Wow, even other fundies disagree with you...

5/1/2008 6:10:32 AM

#483124
apYrs

Like whales they would of kept bit and pieces of anything they no longer used.

Rather like Robert and his brain

5/1/2008 6:42:10 AM

#483131
toothache

What the hell!

5/1/2008 6:46:15 AM
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