[Regarding a man who was pulled off a plane because he continued to pray at the back of a plane despite airline personnel's demands that he be seated for takeoff.]
This is a classic instance of attack on religious people by these modern people - the people who build and run these planes and other such tools of modernism. It is similar to another instance in which some christians baptizing in a public lake and park were asked to stop the process and leave the park. Which flight was getting delayed then...? These modern people need to be properly attacked... physically if need be.
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In fact, let's use those self same planes to attack them with! And let's attack a big profile target with lots of people in it, to really send a message!
Seriously, you have the same mentality as the 9-11 hijackers, in form, if not scale. IE- you are a religious terrorist by mode of thought, if not action.
Can we call Homeland Security on this guy?
Ricocheting nutcases would be great, but only if there was a wall of separation between sane people and the nutcases, so no sane person got hurt. Lexan would be great -- you could see them bounce off it without any risk to yourself.
I'd bet you the majority of people on that plane were also Christian and yet somehow they were all ready to go while no doubt being equally annoyed as anyone over such a delay. The guy was perfectly able to continue praying, he just needed to sit down and buckle up first like everyone else does who wants to pray. Next you'll be saying it's an attack on religious people when someone goes out into the middle of the highway, sits down, and starts praying, only to be moved. I'm sure all the Christians trying to get home to their kids will just love that.
If the stupid fuck had been allowed to get bounced around the plane during take-off, he would've sued the airline.
There's no reasoning with idiots like this.
"This is a classic instance of attack on religious people by these modern people - the people who build and run these planes and other such tools of modernism."
Running through the fundy-bullshit translator:
"This is a classic instance of attack on wingnuts by these people who have the nerve to know what's going on."
If he'd SAT DOWN to pray there wouldn't have been a problem. But he choose to ignore the airline safety rules about staying in your seat with the seatbelt buckled during takeoff. Nothing to do with his religion, just a result of ignoring the instructions of airline officials. If some dude was holding up the takeoff by refusing to sit down for secular reason they'd kick him off too.
I'm sure lots of people pray during takeoff, heck if i wasn't an atheist I'd probably be one of those people, I'm prone to panic attacks on takeoff, but most people have the sense and sanity to listen to the rules and SIT DOWN. What does that guy think God can only hear him if he stands up?
@#501055: Very true. I would have been very annoyed at the twit. My mother and I always make the sign of the cross whenever the plane's about to take off or land, but we do it while seated and buckled up. You're a paranoid whiner, Krishna.
hmm. when one buys a ticket and boards the plane, isn't there an express legal agreement entered into which involves following required safety procedures? so your pissed because some guy, after agreeing to follow certain rules, changed his mind and said, in a manner of speaking, fuck ya all, i'm a lier and you can kiss my fundy ass. hope the stairway was removed before he was booted of. thud.
"the people who build and run these planes and other such tools of modernism."
If you're so against "modern" things, stop using them. You can start by NEVER using a computer again.
davemoore
^ anti-FSTDT to neutralise teh stupid.
Why do fundies always confuse religious freedom with being an asshole?
Millions are able to follow their beliefs and yet NOT be an asshole. So why do fundies find it so difficult?
Although reading the story, the airlines over blew the whole thing as well. The guys worst mistake was his shitty timing (the plane is about to take off and you decide NOW to get and pray knowing you can't stop once started?)
Did it never enter into your peabrain that it may have just been due to the fact that the airplane was about to take off, going at hundreds of miles an hour while climbing who-knows-how-many feet per second and the dumb-ass could have been seriously injured if he wasn't seated properly, or that he could have injured other passengers if he went flying into them?
"These modern people need to be properly attacked... physically if need be."
Religion of peace, eh?
I'll bet if it was a Muslim holding up take-off so he could finish praying, krishna_swami'd want the guy hauled off the plane and shot. Besides, as I understand it, the guy didn't even say he was praying - he just refused to answer. How does a flight attendant tell the difference between a guy rocking back and forth and refusing to respond to anyone because he's praying and a guy rocking back and forth and refusing to respond to anyone because he's a psycho? BTW, I've seen observant Jews praying in their seats on planes, so I don't understand why the guy had to be in the aisle.
@ Septic Sceptic and SSJPunk:
I love it! I'll bring the popcorn.
I was going to suggest we call the video of such an exploit, "Sheiks (pronounced as "shakes" not "sheeks") On A Plane," except in this case, at least, the religious nutcase was an orthodox Jew. I still like the title, though.
"This is a classic instance of attack on religious people by these modern people"
[These modern people need to be properly attacked... physically if need be.]
Advocating violence, krishna? That's a slippery slope...
"These modern people need to be properly attacked... physically if need be."
Yes, that is the proper response to such an incident. Mayonnaise-for-brains.
Goddamnit. A hindu fundie. Atleast those guys used to be fairly harmless and stick by their crazy. (I remember the "watch me drink poison and come back to life dude". He atleast had the stones to die by the sword that he lived with and for that I respect him)
I wonder what would Mr. Krishna Swami (hah! I went to a school with the same name!) say if the people involved were muslims.
and these same morons would happily face-strip a muslim woman for "ease of communication", or insist on bare arms when giving medical treatment. I would actually agree to certain extent, but that's because I don'tg believe that religious rights always trump common sense
Perhaps this guy held to the idiotic belief that unless you pray in a certain position (presumably one incompatible with an airline seat), your omnipotent, omniscient god somehow can't hear you. Kind of like those morons that think you should point yourself towards mecca and bash your forehead on the ground to do it, as if a loving god would care about such meaningless ritual above any actual, heartfelt message of a prayer. "What's that? Your daughter's dying of the plague? Sorry, can't hear you, you're pointing five degrees the wrong way - lalalala!"
Christians used to have a very mild case of this (all religious structures were built facing east), but it's still the same kind of crazy, strong or weak.
The safety of the passenger depended on his being in his seat with the seat belt fastened. Why couldn't he pray in his seat, in safety? Why disrupt the entire plane just because he wanted to pray and break the rules?
Your fundie desire to be persecuted clouds your judgment of reality.
@aaa
There is no such thing as gravity, it's just a hypothesis.
All proper religious people, not these "modern" types, know that what is really there is INTELLIGENT FALLING, for is it not written in the bible:
Is there any scriptural reason why this guy couldn't have simply stopped praying for a few seconds, sat down in his seat, fastened his seatbelt, and then resumed his prayer where he left off?
Yep, a planeload of passengers should be made late because praying while sitting in his seat isn't good enough for someone. You're aware that not everyone on that plane is going to that destination, but need to be at the next airport for a transfer...and that some of them are pretty tight time frames too. Oh and let's not forget that even if he might not care for his personal safety and believed that God would protect him as he's being tossed about, he could get tossed into someone that does, which could mean lawsuits aplenty.
But yeah, when you get down to the nitty gritty of it, it's clearly religious persecution. I mean we must acknowledge that anything done for faith overrides any petty "laws" or "individual rights" we may think apply to a situation.
You should be sitting down on a plane, waiting for takeoff. They kicked the man off for his own safety as well as the convenience of the other passengers.
The people baptizing someone in a lake were putting the person being baptized at risk of drowning. The people who told them to leave did it because of that risk.
> These modern people need to be properly attacked... physically if need be.
If you're treated like everyone else, regardless of religion, then you are NOT attacked.
Would you be fine with Muslim baptisms in the public park? No? Then there is your answer; either everyone can do it, or no-one can do it.
The rest of the passengers don't want to be hit by a flying retard on takeoff.
That's why everyone has to strap in prior to takeoff.
...and if you hate modern society & everything in it so much, then - in the words of the venerable Quantum Mechanic - Stop Using Computers.
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