[Post: Barne's & Nobles Christian booksection: A warning to Babes in Christ]
You all probably know this, but to the new babes in Christ, this is a warning.
The Barnes and Noble Bookstores has a Christian section, but it is filled with all kinds of authors, mostly false teachers and people from the far left field.
Brian McLaren's books are on B&N's bookshelves. So are Rob Bell's books. As well as Rick Warren's books.
Please, do not touch nor open these books. These books are bad news and it will shipwreck your faith in Christ.
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ohh yeah, books that define Christianity in a way that you don't like
Now that's the most evil of all evils isn't it.
And really.... Just touching them will make you lose your faith? God's not very tough now is he.
Any good fundie wouldn't set foot into a bookstore. Just the coffee shop alone is filled with goths and homosexuals at all times, plus bookstores also carry books on occult subjects like evolution and astronomy. Nothing but pure evil. Also good fundies shouldn't read the bible. It's the pastor's job to spoonfeed it to the mindless sheeple. If someone reads the bible for themselves, they might get their own ideas. We can't have that can we?
Thanks for the warning! Here I was, about to use my own personal judgement and free will. Thank you for keeping me from such a horrid error.
Please, please, please, FullOfIt, tell me what other material I should avoid to become a self willed individual?
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"Because my faith in Christ is so weak that a book can destroy it."
Live by the book, die by the book.
"shipwreck your faith in Christ"
Yes, faith requires blind belief in seemingly contradictory factoids and misinterpretation of deliberately vague, symbolic, multi-translated literature.
Jesus forbid you think about it.
To my knowledge, any book on Christianity is bound to offend a select portion of Christians, not matter how broad the message is.
Besides, what they all said, if a single book can detroy your faith, then man do you have issues.
Of course the reason "FreeInHim" didn't suffer that effect, is that he was lying about it and there really is no such effect.
Faith, by definition, is based on nothing and hinges on nothing, so it can't be that strong now can it? Its basically glorified ignorance.
The only problem with it (and its a big problem) is that when you believe without evidence, you pretty much just believe the first thing you hear and then deny or avoid anything else. But what if the ~first~ thing you hear wasn't the right thing? Will God send you to hell for having faith?
That's Catholic stuff. Rapture Ready sure as hell ain't Catholic.
True, but it don't stop 'em counting Catholics when they're trying to show how the majority of Amurcns are Xian though.
Anyway, 'sure as hell' ain't an expression I'd care to use, it presumably means 'totally imaginary' ;-)
What does it say about christianity, or indeed any religion, when a huge proportion of its adherents are constantly denouncing each other?
For an allegedly divinely inspired organisation, they're a fucking shambles. The fact that none of them can demonstrate any clear superiority over any of the others, when you'd expect divine truth (which is invariably alleged to be overwhelmingly beautiful and impossible to mistake) to be easily distinguished from imitations, is by itself pretty damn convincing that there's nothing there except a bunch of deluded, bickering fools.
Ask yourself: would a perfect, omnipotent, omniscient being be in charge of, and allow itself to be represented by, such a pathetic mess?
"Wait, Rob Bell? Rick Warren? Those guys are FAR LEFT? "
FreeInHim?
This is freedom?
"Welcome to Christianity. You've already been told what you are forbidden to say, do, and think, so here is a list of things you are not allowed to read."
"You know, I think i'm really going to like this religion."
They will shipwreck your trust in your pastor, more likely. I would really enjoy seeing that happen.
@Brain-in-a-Jar, That's Th. Jefferson's argument as well. I agree.
Rick Warren? Far left?
*thud*
Why would you enter a B&N in the first place? It has books on witchcraft, islam and science. It's stuffed with evil books. Everyone who goes thee immediately falls into hell.
Besides, fundies can't read anyways.
After an exhaustive analysis of a first edition of Thomas Paine's "The Age Of Reason," I can definitively conclude that it is, in fact, covered in cooties.
I'm a Barnes and Noble employee - helps pay my tuition, and an agnostic. Yes we do have a Christian book section, and I have helped customers find many books in that section. B&N also has other books containing ideas that I don't necessarily agree with, Hitler's Mein Kampf for example, or the books in the gardening section about growing pot. But you see FreeInHim, part of living in a democracy is allowing those around you to have free access to ideas, even ones you don't believe in. That is what freedom and democracy are all about, and honestly you and all of your cohorts who want to make America a homogenous society where only certain ideas and values are approved of make me want to hurl.
Geez, and I thought Pagels, Mack, Armstrong, and Finkelstein were more reliable than any of that crap. My mistake...
Please, do not touch nor open these books. These books are bad news and it will shipwreck your faith in Christ.
Are these pop-up books on demonology?
If you guys really want to have a blast with a fundie, check out Bill Gothard. When I was a child I was forced to be in his cultish congregation. He'd have you believe that you'll go to hell if yours was a single-parent household, if the girls wore pants, if you listened to any music that held a beat, or if you had your tubes tied because you didn't want more kids. *shudders*
What this guy/gal is spewing about ruining your faith simply by touching or opening books has the ring of familiarity to it, as I was brought up this way. Now that I'm old enough to think for myself, I wholeheartedly disagree. Whether you bring God into the argument or not, as humans we have minds - best to use them to get all the facts, all the information so that we can make informed decisions.
Edit: Here are some links for your reading pleasure/horror (depending on how you look at it).
http://billgothard.com/bill/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gothard
"Please, stay of everything that can wreck your faith and contradict Bible." Damn, that means that I got to lock myself in to a dark, soundproof room
Gee, The religious sections full of a bunch of conflicting bullshit. No surprize, that's why you won't find the Bible in the history section.
Biggest problem due to coding and book descriptions crap science from creationists are showing up in the science section
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Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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