As I have said before, I don't care if chimp DNA is 100% like ours --- we were created separate. I know you may not understand that, but if you're only looking at it scientifically, then you're not supposed to.
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Yeah but it's still fun laughing at the fundie.
Put it this way AV. I know you may not understand that, but if you're only looking at it biblically, then you're not supposed to.
I agree Durane. Creationists are forever saying "I'll believe in evolution when I see a fish give birth to a monkey". I'll bet that even if such a thing were A) possible. B) Part of evolutionary theory, and C) Shown to them in person, they'd still want to believe in creationism.
You see if your looking at it from an objective point and only look at the evidence, then of course you'll land at that conclusion. But if you look at it from the point of a total idiot, doesn't it look like they were created seperatly.
You know what we need here? A "Lifetime Achievement Award" for fundies themselves instead of just their quotes. We could take the time to formally recognize such epic fail as AV, T&T, Bro. Randy, Carico, B(R)ent, and Kent Hovind.
Because let's face it--this is truly EPIC stupid here.
Yet another Ignorance Is Strength Award for AV's trophy case.
Man, you must be constipated beyond belief, in order to continue pulling this shit out of your ass.
"I don't care if chimp DNA is 100% like ours --- we were created separate"
Ummm....if their DNA was 100% like ours they would actually be us! So is he saying he doesn't beleive humans are related to other humans lol?
if our DNA were 100% identical to a chimp's (some chimp's I guess) then we'd be exactly the same. The idea is that it's close, but your stubbroness tells everyone that you don't care if others say 1+1=2, you're going to believe 1+1=7 no matter what evidence anyone can show to dispute that.
Please never ever use ant collective pronouns like "ours" or "we". Everything you say only applies to yourself, you truly are unique, so go stand in the corner and continue your mental masturbation in private please.
fundamentalists delenda est
If we're not supposed to look at it scientifically, be consequent and get out of the computer which, without science, wouldn't exist. And anyway, if we're created separate, why do we have a similar DNA?, it's one of God's pastimes, to see how do we explain two concepts that can't match?.
It may be the masochist in me, but I really want to meet this guy, talk to him and see if I can find out how he functions in the world of reality, while seeming to live completely apart from it.
"It may be the masochist in me, but I really want to meet this guy, talk to him and see if I can find out how he functions in the world of reality, while seeming to live completely apart from it."
I've known people like this. There's always someone looking out for them, and I mean a family member or a spouse, not a magic sky pixie.
With people like AV, you can only shake your head and walk away. He lives in his own Through-the-Looking-Glass reality. He already said in an earlier thread that if the Bible says bats are birds, then they're birds.
Mind telling us how we were created, separate or otherwise? That's the scientific approach. Dirt doesn't work. You can stretch the context of the Miller-Urey experiment to note that the chemistry involved was something like dirt, but a broader mechanism is clearly involved.
AV, you miss two points simultaneously: your scripture was created to be allegorical/metaphorical; science is not a belief system.
I know, I know -- you can't win an argument with a pile of shit, it will continue stinking.
I've actually participated on the forum with this guy and his whole purpose in being there is to prove 'Goddidit'
THIS is why no scientist will debate with fundies anymore.
Just someone tell me how we're supposed to look at DNA if not scientifically?
"Fine, make it 110% percent then --- it doesn't matter.
You fail at biology and mathematics. Go to jail. Do not pass go etc etc.
Also:
"I've said this before, and I'll say it again. I have no problem whatsoever with what is called "circular logic." Some use it, and the rest deny they use it."
You also fail at logic.
Hey AV, if your DNA is 100% chimp, then you can't be your brother's keeper.
However, it does indicate that you are your keeper's brother.
I wish someone would just point out that if he really wanted to, he could independently confirm everything that scientists have said about the DNA of currently living animals. If we could get him to concede that it certainly looks like there's evolution, and if you didn't believe in the Bible, for whatever reason, you'd be insane not to believe in evolution, it would be a major step forward.
Also, he seems to have confused "Circular Logic" with "Making Assumptions"
I hate to admit it, by AV may have a point here. After all, I assume his DNA is 100% like everyone else's, but there's just no way this guy is a functioning human being!
I think that arguing with AV and others like him is kinda fun. You have to accept that they'll never get a clue and just have fun seeing what lame responses they will have to back up their religion.
It's like watching a cat play with a laser pointer. They don't know they can't catch it, but they try anyway, and it's entertaining to watch them go spastic trying to.
yeah, yeah, science is evil
Why the fuck do these people use a piece of technology to cry about the evils of science? Worse yet if they're using wireless (all those evil waves floating around).
THIS is why no scientist will debate with fundies anymore.
Just someone tell me how we're supposed to look at DNA if not scientifically?
They want us to ignore it and pretend DNA doesn't exist. Seriously.
I swear, if Jesus were to return, walk up to this guy, and say "no, really, we just kicked the whole thing off and let evolution run its course.", AV1611VET would probably respond with "no you didn't, because the bible says so!"
moron!
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