Remember,when Jesus was born the Dragon(devil) swept 1/3rd of the stars to the earth according to Revelations. So all the ones you see could be from a huge spiritual battle involving Satan,leading other angels with him with his intelligence(in the beginning),and the others who stood up against him. Remember,some angels could be as big as planets,stars even I imagine-to break a giant star into little ones during a battle is very possible.
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What? Where does this "when Jesus was born" crap come from?
The principle of at least that part of Revelations is that it has not happened yet.
Even on your own fundie terms, you fail, let alone on any reasonable ideas about science.
SoulOfAnAss:
Sorry, it couldn't have happened. Any star is much larger than the earth, and the collision would involve the earth falling into the star, at which point, the earth and everything upon it would be vaporized.
...angels as big as planets breaking big stars into little ones...Riiiight.
Problem is, the ignoramus(es) who wrote Revelations understood as much astronomy as the typical sunflower does.
WTF award, indeed.
Aw, geez, we all know that.
And, oh, that book? It's Revelation. Singular. You'll find it in the Bible.
Revelation says a dragon "drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth", but I don't see anything about Jesus' birth in that chapter. You'd think the Chinese, who were avid astronomers even 5,000 years ago, and had already created a star chart in the 4th century BC, would have noticed a third of the stars disappearing.
Warning-stuffy, whiny nitpicking ahead. My sense of humor is not feeling the love today.
Funny as the weed jokes can sometimes be, as a long time atheist, skeptic and marijuana enthusiast I do resent the comparison at times.
I am literate, well read, and familiar with math up to trigonometry and hard science up to college level beginning astronomy. I have also continued studying and increasing my knowledge outside of school. Unlike fudies, I am not under the impression that my modest achievements make me some sort of sage or revolutionary genius. I have neither the ignorance nor the arrogance to go on with grand statements about the nature of reality or my own versions of spiritual cosmology.
In my experience, you simply cannot smoke yourself that stupid. It takes a naturally gullible mind and years of training in practical stupidity and groupthink (read: churchgoing) to attain that level of such profound meaninglessness. Even the most THC drenched, half-mumbled rap album makes more sense than a fundie; so please, have some respect for the intelligent drug users of the world and quit lumping us in with the brain damaged religionists.
@ Neil: Thank you!
WTF Award (n+1)thed.
Clearly, SoulOfAnAxe ver.2 is a true believer in a literal interpretation of the bible.
Namely, that the earth is capped by a transparent Vault of Heaven a couple of hundred miles above our heads, and the stars and planets are tiny little light bulbs hanging from it.
"The book of Revelation is, hands down, the bible's most deranged. [...] if [John's] epistles can be seen as John on pot, then Revelation is John on acid."
-- Ken Smith, Ken's Guide to the Bible
So what does that make someone who not only believes it, but has spiralled off into even more deranged versions of it?! Another WTF Award nomination from me, FWIW.
This is a new one, merging the gospel stories of Jesus with the Book of Revelations.
Do us a favor? Please go do some Bible study that explains what the BoR is.
I had to re-read that twice, and my brain is still giving me parsing errors.
Has SoulOfAnAxe been listening to whiterider and watching Gundam simultaneously again?
I've made a habit, whenever a fundie starts talking about Revelation, how John and his contemporaries in the early Christian community would have understood this most hallowed of fundie texts as cloaked political satire aimed at those damn Romans. Apparently the people who this text was written for misinterpreted it horrendously, if it was supposed to be literal !
What exactly would happen if you could break apart a star, anyway? Gravity makes the idea sound almost nonsensical, but I'm sure if you dropped another star on it, you could. You'd probably just get a black hole though, if there was enough mass...
If an angel was the size of a star, then he would essentially be..... well..... a star. Maybe the book of Revs meant thermonuclear bombs, cos they are hot, just like stars. And maybe the Dragon is China, cos they like dragons over there. Or maybe someone had just discovered a sack of fly agaric and a pencil.
"Remember,when Jesus was born the Dragon(devil) swept 1/3rd of the stars to the earth according to Revelations. So all the ones you see could be from a huge spiritual battle involving Satan,leading other angels with him with his intelligence(in the beginning),and the others who stood up against him. Remember,some angels could be as big as planets,stars even I imagine-to break a giant star into little ones during a battle is very possible."
PROTIP: The laserdisc arcade videogames "Dragon's Lair" and "Space Ace" are not documentaries.
[/Don Bluth]
Please learn to English, that was painful!
No, I don't remember when Jesus was born. There isn't even any consensus on when that was, among theologians. Somewhere between 4 BCE and 7 CE, if memory serves, is the closest they have managed to come.
When you have provided evidence for the existence of the Devil, Satan, Angels and Jesus, then we'll talk...
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