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Question... How does anyone know that our Sun burns Hydrogen? Was a prob sent to the Sun to collect data? Is there a lab on the Sun that I’ve not heard of? How can anyone state with such certainty what the Sun does or does not burn with the limited knowledge we actually have about the Sun?


EndWelfareToday, Free Republic 46 Comments [7/16/2007 7:14:23 AM]
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Doctor Whom

Don't tell me; let me guess. God put spectral lines there to test our faith.

7/16/2007 7:20:26 AM

NonProphet

http://www.geo.mtu.edu/weather/aurora/images/sun/sun-flare.jpg

Nope, that doesn't look like it's burning at all. No, sir.

7/16/2007 7:46:04 AM

Staccato

And yet, miraculously, these are the same people who can dictate exactly what God's will is, even when there is nothing in the Bible to support them.
Omniscience must be a total bitch.

7/16/2007 7:46:20 AM

Ambrielle

Ahh, Argument from Ignorance, my favourite.

7/16/2007 7:49:40 AM



Well, maybe you can go see for yourself.

7/16/2007 7:54:05 AM

The Project Hate

Our knowledge about it might be limited, but not as much as your thinking possibilites.

We know that hydrogen and helium were the only elements present at the beginning of the universe. Therefore, they were the components of stars. Stars burn what they are made of, you know. That's called Nuclear Fusion.

7/16/2007 8:11:48 AM

Jack Bauer

I heard some fundies are sending a manned rocket to the sun, something to do with being closer to heaven.

They realise that there will be a bit of a heat problem - but they have a solution. They are going at night.

7/16/2007 8:22:48 AM

Ignignockt

Our understanding of nuclear physics is actually quite good; thus our ability to produce weapons based on the concept of nuclear fusion.

The sun is a mass of incandescent gas,
A gigantic nuclear furnace.
Where Hydrogen is built into Helium
At a temperature of millions of degrees.


7/16/2007 8:31:53 AM

Travel Agent

We're taking up a collection for your ticket to the Sun. It's one-way.

7/16/2007 9:10:37 AM

Freboy

It's a good thing the modern world of science is not based on EWT:s limited knowledge about... everything.

7/16/2007 9:21:23 AM

Puck

Yeah, EWT certainly displays limited knowledge.

Science is garnering more real information on a continuing basis.

Education is the solution to this, EWT.

7/16/2007 9:29:15 AM

anevilmeme

"Question.....How does anyone know that our Sun burns Hydrogen?"

A branch of science called astronomy, prehaps you've heard of it?

7/16/2007 9:38:22 AM

Gadren

...so is there any particular reason why EWT is denying science? Basically his point is: "I know about all the evidence there is, but what if, just WHAT IF there was something out there that made all our readings wrong for no particular reason?"

7/16/2007 9:45:12 AM

Mr Smith

Oh way to blow the whole scam EndWelfareToday! Now no astronomers are going to get any more funding. How are the illuminati going to cover up the real purpose of those STEREO satellites now?

I really shouldn't feed the trolls :)

7/16/2007 10:15:11 AM

Mike

Spectrometer.

7/16/2007 10:27:21 AM

Euclid

I was gonna call poe. Maybe even trojan poe ('cause, y'know, way to mimic creationist argument on something well-established and well-accepted -- basically it's the standard "replace evolution with gravity and see how it sounds" approach, but more devious).

But no. Sadly, he seems to be serious. It also appears that he's not a True Scotsman. (All that spectrometer crap is Not True Science, y'see...)

7/16/2007 10:55:54 AM

Berny

How can anyone get through life without ever getting a shred of scientific knowledge to stick in their brain?
We learned this stuff back in grade school when i was a kid.
Tell me, EWT, were you homeskooled? Is it too late to get your money back?

7/16/2007 11:28:48 AM

TastyHamSandwich

@Ignignockt: Beat me to it!

We know the sun burns hydrogen because They Might Be Giants told us so!

7/16/2007 11:33:00 AM

Brian X

So I take it A Beka Book doesn't tell its science students how to do a flame test or operate a spectroscope, then?

7/16/2007 11:44:33 AM

Manos, the Hands of Fate

I get all my science from Star Trek. Thus, I know that stars burn hydrogen, that when they go nova or form a black hole it is a process taking only a few tens of minutes to complete, and that you can travel in time by plotting a specific course around any mainline star at high warp speeds. This is useful if you need to teach a lesson about conservation to audiences across America about 300 years before you were born.

7/16/2007 12:13:26 PM

Osiris

Spectrographic and radio telescopes.

7/16/2007 12:24:41 PM

Nekhbet

You're right EWT, there is no Lab on the sun, it's a Rottweiler

7/16/2007 12:37:27 PM

Zimmie

The post by Physicist is a wonderful explanation of the whole thing, including why a sample of the sun's material would be no better than what we have now.

Wonderfully written and it addresses all of this idiot's objections.

7/16/2007 1:06:38 PM

agentCDE

We have the fossils spectral lines, we win.

7/16/2007 2:50:19 PM

Old Viking

There's one school of thought that says the sun is burning the end product of cow flatulence, but they haven't figured out yet how it gets up there.

7/16/2007 3:06:09 PM

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