All of you 'former Christians' turned Atheist are weak minded, and weak souled. You won't find real Christians turning away from God because some Message Board dork tells them to.
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That's the kind of attitude I heard about in the '80's when Judas Priest were being sued for 'causing' two boys to kill themselves. Do you think for one moment that the two boys were clear-headed, sane and rational when they killed themselves? Was richard ramirez 'okay' before listeing to 'Night Prowler' on AC/DC's 'Highway to Hell' album? Don't you think that there were likely a million things that preceded listening to a song? The idea that someone would change their tune about god based on some faceless 'dork' on the internet would be insulting if i didn't know that hard-core christians were so out of touch with reality.
No true Scotsman fallacy.
In the words of the Demoman from Team Fortress 2:
"Ach, I'm the only black Scottish cyclops! So cock sure, with your heads full of eyeballs!"
Um...do you actually know any "Former Christians?"
Also, I personally find Christianity "weak minded, and weak souled." Not that I believe in a soul.
So, thinking for yourself is weak-minded, but following some pastor without questioning is strong-minded?
Sticking to some ancient belief against overwhelming evidence is strong-minded, but changing your mind when presented with strong evidence is weak-minded?
The day we stop questioning things, is the day we start dying.
"All of you 'former Christians' turned Atheist are weak minded, and weak souled. You won't find real Christians turning away from God because some Message Board dork tells them to."
Jonathan Edwards. Olympic gold medal-winning athlete. Ex-long-time Christian (certainly longer than any of you lot)-turned Atheist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Edwards_(athlete)
And to my knowledge, not a member of any fundie-based message board on the internet. Least of all Christian Forums.
Your call, Billdemart.
I suppose a fairly high proportion of people from nominally Christian countries who now describe themselves as atheists might once have been counted as Christians, if only because there's a custom of parents sending children to Sunday School or taking them to church (or even, here in the UK and elsewhere, of most schools featuring predominantly Christian worship -- at least there was when I was a kid).
In other words, the church gets its say in first because it did the same to the parents back when they were children. But as kids grow up many realise that a lot of what they were taught as fact is in reality unfounded. That's certainly what happened to me: I was sent to Sunday School from the age of four to 11 but I counted myself an atheist by the age of 12. I thank good teachers at a good school for teaching me to question and to think (not about religion specifically, but life in general), even though the school as an institution continued to hold traditional Christian assemblies each day.
I was particularly pleased, on overhearing my parents chatting with a neighbour last year, that they both answered "No, not any more" when he asked them if they had any religious leanings. Note to fundies: I didn't run up and congratulate them on having finally seen the light -- their beliefs are their own business.
No, in my case, it was through contradictions in the bible and scientific proof of stuff (i.e., Evolution, as in TRANSITIONARY FOSSILS which do in fact, exist)
Though I still find myself hovering between OEC and Atheism
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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