Occam's razor states that the simplest answer tends to be the right one.
Which is the simplest answer?
That man is the result of evolution, is desended from monkeys which desended from dogs which desended from slime because of a cosmic acident in which the universe just happened to perfectly fit what was required for life?
Or
That God designed and created the universe as is and placed life into it?
Occams Razor says that God did it as obviously the God answer is much more shorter and simpler than evolution.
Case closed.
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Oh, sweet merciful Tolkien. Are you arguing that the less words used in an argument determine its truth?
All right, let us apply this to this question.
You are an idiot.
You are not an idiot.
Your interpretation of Occam's razor says that you are an idiot.
I hate it when they try Occam's Razor. Occam's Razor does not say the "the simplest explanation," it says, "the simplest logical explanation that fits the evidence ".
So, if you say, "How was my car made," I could say "A grapefruit did it"; this would be a very simplest explanation, but it wouldn't be logical, and it wouldn't explain the existence of all the frickin' car factories.
Gah. You're a bloody moron. Occam's Razor states that entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity. It doesn't say anything about the most simple explanation being "usually correct" or anything like that.
God is an unnecessary entity, therefore Occam's Razor doesn't need it. Evolution works the same with or without God's involvement.
Except that's not what Occam's Razor states. Occam's razor is the principle that the most likely explanation of a phenomenon excludes the unnecessary multiplication of entities. The most likely correct explanation is assumed to be the simplest, with simple being defined as only interpolating an entity when some evidence calls for its involvement because it cannot be explained with the additional entity.
In order for this typical fundie twisting of the principle to avoid being slashed to ribbons with the razor, one would have to show something that necessitates the involvement of God in both cosmogenesis and biogenesis. What we have here has nothing to do with Occam's Razor, but is a classical argumentum ad ignorantium ; "I don't understand it, so my explanation must be valid."
You know what's shorter than god did it?
I did it.
By the way, Occam's Razor is "do not multiply entities beyond necessity", or, don't make up hypothetical entities to explain phenomena which can be explained solely by recourse to known entities.
Ah, yes, an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent entity that created the universe is obviously the simplest answer.
Let's see, Evolution which requires that life forms develop over millions of years into other more complicated lifeforms, or Creation that requires a Creator that came from somewhere, to create millions of different species in 6 days, wait a while, found a religion, then get pissed off with everybody for not following it and destroy everybody except a few humans and two of each creature which had to be shut on a big boat for 40 days and nights without eating each other, and have enough food for everybody there. Then they have to repopulate the earth, finding food again in a world where all other plants and animals drowned. Gee, evolution suddenly seems a lot less complicated.
That man is the result of evolution, Ok that is basicly correct.
is desended from monkeys Nope, Humans are not descended from any monkey species. They are our distant cousins, Not our ancestors.
which desended from dogs Nope, Dogs are domesticated wolves, And are the result of human intervention. Monkeys predate dogs by about 50 million years.
which desended from slime Nope.
Dogs are descended from wolves. Slime is a material with no biologial componants, NOTHING is descended from slime.
because of a cosmic acident Nope,
There is not one cosmic accident that can be tied to the evolution of any species.
in which the universe just happened to perfectly fit what was required for life? Nope, The universe is essentialy hostile to life, But life adapts to the hostile universe.
You scored 1 out of 6. You fail.
"All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best."
We have mountains of evidence, libraries of scholarship, you have a bronze age fairy tale. All other things are not equal. /argument.
That man is the result of evolution, is desended from monkeys which desended from dogs which desended from slime because of a cosmic acident in which the universe just happened to perfectly fit what was required for life?
That's not evolution. I can see where you might be mistaken in your hypothesis, in assuming that creationism is the easier answer. But this is not evolution. This is the fundy bullshit version of what they think evolution is.
Occams Razor says that God did it as obviously the God answer is much more shorter and simpler than evolution.
So because there's less words in your view, that means it's right? You really are a fucking idiot, aren't you?
One should not extend beyond what is necessary the number of entities required to explain anything.
I guess the dumbass form of "the simplest explanation is usually the right one" could generally work, but it's pretty useless since it introduces a probability factor. And in this case even if we accept that God is simpler than evolution, Ockham's razor would not guarantee its truth.
Occam's razor states that the simplest answer tends to be the right one.
Yes, simplest , NOT stupidest.
Which of all gods designed and created the universe? How? When? What did he or she do before he or she created the universe? Who created that god? Which of the thousands of creation stories is the right one? Why?
See, Goddidit just created a whole lot more questions.
Evolution has been observed in laboratories, and all evidence supports it. New finds have corroborated what Darwin could just assume. Evolution wins.
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