As much as some of you are in denial, men want a virgin. Back when society actually functioned, women remained virgins until marriage. Society was orderly - it worked. Then people were hoodwinked into adopting degeneracy instead of morallity, but that same hardwired desire hasn't changed in men. So, where does a man have to seek a decent virgin? Seems pretty obvious.
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Did...did this guy just suggest that we should be having sex with children ?
Uh ... I hate to rain on your parade, Quixo, but Mary wasn't a virgin when she got married. She was pregnant to someone (something?) else! Technically, she cheated on Joseph. So that makes her a degenerate and a whore, right?
I've had a virgin, it's not all that it's cracked up to be. There is a lot to be said for experience. Of course, if the thought of women actively seeking sexual partners and enjoying sex frightens you, then I can see where your warped mentally has sprouted from.
You forget a very indeed small detail. Those men looked for two types of women, virgins for marriage, and whores for sex. Ask many men now and they´ll tell you that they don´t care now, as long as sex is ok.
Hey there. I'm a guy, ie; a dude; in other words: A MAN.
Sigh. Fundies and their assumptions. "If evolution's true, this'll happen", "if women don't stay virgins, this'll happen". Please do me a favour and listen to reality instead of your pastor for once.
Who made you the spokesman for men? I, personally, want absolutely nothing to do with a virgin and I know quite a few men who feel the same way. Your hardwired desire comment is complete bullshit. People have likes based on their experiences as a child. If you were flooded with symbolisms that virginity was good, then you are attracted to that (or people made you feel like you had to ignore your true feelings in the name of morality). However, the majority of tv shows and movies paint a different picture, which has lead the rest of our society to think quite differently from you. Although, if you want there are plenty of other countries you can go to where people still see that as the norm.
Where does a man have to seek a decent virgin?
On average, every heterosexual male has heterosexual sex once in his life with one virgin female. And vice versa. Average, mind you, not necessarily typical. And the losing of virginity is by no means the ultimate sexual experience for most people - if it were than most of us would be happily celebate now.
So, where does a man have to seek a decent virgin?
What, exactly, does this guy mean by "virgin"? Experience is a wide-ranging thing - it's possible to have learned your way around a man's body and yet not have had intercourse. Does this guy really want a woman whose first reaction is "ew, what's that ?"
As much as some of you are in denial, men want a virgin. Back when society actually functioned, women remained virgins until marriage.
and heretics were burned at the stake.
Society was orderly - it worked.
The slave ships were orderly.
Then people were hoodwinked into adopting degeneracy instead of morallity, but that same hardwired desire hasn't changed in men.
Yes, some men just don't get it.
So, where does a man have to seek a decent virgin? Seems pretty obvious.
Not to me, but then again I really don't care.
"As much as some of you are in denial, men want a virgin."As much as you're an idiot, I want the woman I'm in love with, virgin or not.
"Back when society actually functioned, women remained virgins until marriage. Society was orderly - it worked."
When was this charmed era of virginity and order?
Catch a clue, asshat, as long as there has been sex, people have been having pre-marital sex.
"Then people were hoodwinked into adopting degeneracy instead of morallity, but that same hardwired desire hasn't changed in men."
Who decides what is degenerate, you?
The desire for a virgin mate is tied up in insecurity and possessivness. Many of us have gotten beyond those childish feelings.
"So, where does a man have to seek a decent virgin? Seems pretty obvious."
You're not allowed to marry elementry school girls, Quixo.
I prefer a woman who knows what she's doing, and I'm sure everyone here agrees that a partner who knows how to make it good is the best. Not a diss on virgins, of course. They can be quick learners ;)
Quixo, if your retarded rant is an attempt at justifying having sexual relations with prepubescent girls, you need an axe hit in the crotch.
As much as some of you are in denial, men want a virgin. Back when society actually functioned, women remained virgins until marriage.
Oh yes, the "good old days", which never really existed. There have been times when people were possibly more concerned with women remaining virgins until marriage than they are now. But then we grew up a little more.
So, where does a man have to seek a decent virgin? Seems pretty obvious
Given the title of this thread, as revealed in other posts here, all that's obvious is that you're a sick bastard. Men don't turn to children because they can't find a grown woman who's a virgin. It isn't a woman's fault if a man decides to screw a child. It's all on them, and nothing you say will make it otherwise.
I don't think men want, or need, a pure, virginal little girl. The ones wanting that are insecure little man-boys with little or nothing to offer under the sheets.
I was a virgin, so was my boyfriend and we're still together. Oh, we're both guys, does that mean I lose points?
"When society functioned........" you mean when war was rampant, when death was the norm and it was a miracle living up to 40, when black people got lynched...............yes, that´s what I call functioning. And just a little detail, you haven´t shown why is so pretty obvious, unless you mean either that men see women as property(what about those who married widows or divorcees?) or because they meant to be virgin too until marriage. I mean, if every single woman is virgin and they "prefer" virgins, they have to be consequent, because there is more or less the same number of women as men.
Well, you're close. Most men (but ceratinly not all , by any means) want a vagina, not a virgin . I can see how you might make the mistake, though, the words are pretty close to each other.
So, back then all men had pre-marital sex with each other or did they have adulterous affairs with married women? These are the only two options available if, as you assert, all unmarried women were virgins. So adultery or gay sex it is!
For those asking about where the original topic came from. There appears to be a forum for IMDB (who knew, I didn't :)). It is in the category called the Soapbox which is, I guess, for serious discussions. Either way this guy is sick.
"The desire for a virgin mate is tied up in insecurity and possessivness. "
To continue on Beccs point: This still boggles my mind; Fundies don't like gay people, and therefore, one assumes, they don't like gay sex either. However, they seem to *only* specify that it's women who have to keep their virginity. Self contradiction or just not thinking about what they're really saying... you decide.
Though the fundie's post is inexcusable, there is something to be said about having sex with a virgin, especially when both parties involved are equally inexperiences, genuinely love and trust each other, and are eager to have fun.
Because then, the fumbling around can be a blast :)
Yea, that was a grand idea when I was a teenager and alot of girls were jsut starting out sexually. I guess that worked out well when people got married as teenagers.
But in the modern world, men and women get married in their twenties and thirties. And there is something strange about a 30 year old virgin.
"So, where does a man have to seek a decent virgin? Seems pretty obvious."
You did NOT just say that. Pedophilia has nothing to do with women having sex before marriage. I'm willing to bet that historically, the percentage of girls who were molested or raped as children hasn't changed much. If anything, it's probably gone down slightly because girls are now taught to speak out when these things happen to them, rather then pretend nothing ever happened the way they used to.
I'd like to have a virgin myself. IMO, it's best the way to begin sex. But that's just my view.
Sadly, most virgins are underaged or just skanky/ugly. That's definetly not what I want.
Functioned?, you mean, with wars, illnesses, death rate far higher than now, poverty, hunger, social turmoil..............?. Not to mention that the same men who demanded virgins were the first who didn´t remain virgins when marrying. In other words, what did they expect, if they didn´t believe in their own rules?. By the way, statistics say that men don´t care about virgins. Otherwise, the marriage rate would have almost disappeared.
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