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An apple is either rotten, or its ripe. There is no inbetween. This same backwards logic is often applied to other various secular ideologies:

Atheism: Either there is a God, or there isnt.
Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.

Im just pointing out the fallacies here, this logic doesn't work. There is no middle ground, there is no inbetween.

Trinidad and Tobago, CARM 45 Comments [3/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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#174817

Mike

T&T fails again.

3/3/2007 5:58:39 PM

#174884

anevilmeme

Well beyond showing us you don't know the definition of atheism or evolution what else do you have for us?

3/3/2007 7:07:41 PM

#174890

Viridian

He doesn't know too much about apples either, it seems. Hasn't he ever heard of an unripe apple?

False dilemma is also a fallacy, T&T.

3/3/2007 7:09:48 PM

#174896

Ambrielle

what the? I thought apples where a little tart when they were not quite ripe?

3/3/2007 7:12:52 PM

#174905

Øyvind

Atheism: Either there is a God, or there isnt.

I fail to see how this is a fallacy. Either there's a God, or there isn't. How can there be a middle-ground here?

Can I say the same about you?

Me: Is there a Trinidad and Tobago in the world?
You: Nah, only a little, about 60%, not fully.

I mean, what?

Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.

I've heard far, far more fundies say this than atheists. In fact, it's the fundies who love to say that \"evolution is false, thus God created us\".

3/3/2007 7:16:40 PM

#174913

anti-nonsense

Damn you fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down didn't you?

3/3/2007 7:22:01 PM

#174921

BurntBush

I'm missing a point somewhere.

3/3/2007 7:26:52 PM

#174940

Sgeo

Is it possible that this was a reply to something?

3/3/2007 7:52:48 PM

#174945

Jezebel's Evil Sister

\"Either God created us, or we evolved.\"

The millions of theists who accept evolution disagree with you.

3/3/2007 8:01:30 PM

#174948

Anonymous

Re : Sgeo & BurntBush.

[First Response by T&T]
If you and me looked at an apple, and I said to you: \"The apple is red\" and you said \"no it's black\", would you call me biased? The Truth is never biased.

squirrel : Depends on which side of the apple each person is looking at. Both statements could be true.

Then the above quote came next.

3/3/2007 8:09:11 PM

#174970

BoxerShorts

You're absolutely right.

There isn't a God.

And we evolved.

Now that we've settled that, who wants pizza rolls?

3/3/2007 8:29:45 PM

#174973

Old Viking

... no inbetween.

A good description of the typical fundy's subtle thinking.

3/3/2007 8:33:20 PM

#174982

SaneChick

Personally, I prefer my apples fermented.

3/3/2007 8:44:41 PM

#174990

lytefoot

Tautology: either you get it, or you don't.

3/3/2007 8:50:38 PM

#175005

Tiny Bulcher

Grey: either you see it, or you don't.

3/3/2007 9:07:36 PM

#175014

Osiris

The world is black and white and I'm not color blind.

3/3/2007 9:14:13 PM

#175021

Matilde

There are several degrees of rotteness, indeed. So, all your logic fails there, particularly with evolution. The theory doesn´t deny God. It does deny Genesis, but not God itself. I think that´s your problem. You see things in a simple, white-and-black way.

3/3/2007 9:16:49 PM

#175029

themann1086

Uh, actually there are many more divisions for the theistic side [Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Polytheistic religions, Scientology, etc etc] than the atheistic side.

3/3/2007 9:20:25 PM

#175054

flipper

Look, if he's pointing out the fallacies in his own logic, I couldn't agree more!

3/3/2007 9:36:02 PM

#175134

The Watcher

Okay, fine, you win. God exists, but only sort of. He's real, but He's sort of half-faded out.

3/3/2007 11:09:44 PM

#175181

Rockstar

As opposed to creationism: God created us and anyone who thinks differently is the devil.

3/4/2007 12:14:46 AM

#175184

Sandman

The hundreds of half-ripened apples on the trees in my back yard call you a liar...

3/4/2007 12:16:36 AM

#175278

[i]McCulloch[/i]

Atheism: Either there is a God, or there isnt.
Right. There isn't

Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.
Wrong. There are many who believe that God created us through the process of evolution. Those people even have a name, theistic evolutionists.

3/4/2007 3:42:53 AM

#175373

Napoleon the Clown

Christianity: God exists so admit it or we'll fucking kill you.
Creationism: God poofed it all into existence. Admit it or we'll fucking kill you.

3/4/2007 4:51:43 AM

#175473

The Jamo

Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.

I can think of a hundred more possible scenarios that lead to the rise of life on this planet. That is not the issue. The point here is to find the one that works when challenged with available evidence. That model turns out to be abiogenesis followed by evolution. Which part don't you understand?

3/4/2007 6:53:00 AM