Quote# 21527

An apple is either rotten, or its ripe. There is no inbetween. This same backwards logic is often applied to other various secular ideologies:

Atheism: Either there is a God, or there isnt.
Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.

Im just pointing out the fallacies here, this logic doesn't work. There is no middle ground, there is no inbetween.

Trinidad and Tobago, CARM 45 Comments [3/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Mike

T&T fails again.

3/3/2007 5:58:39 PM

anevilmeme

Well beyond showing us you don't know the definition of atheism or evolution what else do you have for us?

3/3/2007 7:07:41 PM

Viridian

He doesn't know too much about apples either, it seems. Hasn't he ever heard of an unripe apple?

False dilemma is also a fallacy, T&T.

3/3/2007 7:09:48 PM

Ambrielle

what the? I thought apples where a little tart when they were not quite ripe?

3/3/2007 7:12:52 PM

√ėyvind

Atheism: Either there is a God, or there isnt.
I fail to see how this is a fallacy. Either there's a God, or there isn't. How can there be a middle-ground here?

Can I say the same about you?

Me: Is there a Trinidad and Tobago in the world?
You: Nah, only a little, about 60%, not fully.

I mean, what?

Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.
I've heard far, far more fundies say this than atheists. In fact, it's the fundies who love to say that \"evolution is false, thus God created us\".

3/3/2007 7:16:40 PM

anti-nonsense

Damn you fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down didn't you?

3/3/2007 7:22:01 PM

BurntBush

I'm missing a point somewhere.

3/3/2007 7:26:52 PM

Sgeo

Is it possible that this was a reply to something?

3/3/2007 7:52:48 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

\"Either God created us, or we evolved.\"

The millions of theists who accept evolution disagree with you.

3/3/2007 8:01:30 PM

Anonymous

Re : Sgeo & BurntBush.

[First Response by T&T]
If you and me looked at an apple, and I said to you: \"The apple is red\" and you said \"no it's black\", would you call me biased? The Truth is never biased.

squirrel : Depends on which side of the apple each person is looking at. Both statements could be true.

Then the above quote came next.

3/3/2007 8:09:11 PM

BoxerShorts

You're absolutely right.

There isn't a God.

And we evolved.

Now that we've settled that, who wants pizza rolls?

3/3/2007 8:29:45 PM

Old Viking

... no inbetween.

A good description of the typical fundy's subtle thinking.

3/3/2007 8:33:20 PM

SaneChick

Personally, I prefer my apples fermented.

3/3/2007 8:44:41 PM

lytefoot

Tautology: either you get it, or you don't.

3/3/2007 8:50:38 PM

Tiny Bulcher

Grey: either you see it, or you don't.

3/3/2007 9:07:36 PM

Osiris

The world is black and white and I'm not color blind.

3/3/2007 9:14:13 PM

Matilde

There are several degrees of rotteness, indeed. So, all your logic fails there, particularly with evolution. The theory doesn´t deny God. It does deny Genesis, but not God itself. I think that´s your problem. You see things in a simple, white-and-black way.

3/3/2007 9:16:49 PM

themann1086

Uh, actually there are many more divisions for the theistic side [Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Polytheistic religions, Scientology, etc etc] than the atheistic side.

3/3/2007 9:20:25 PM

flipper

Look, if he's pointing out the fallacies in his own logic, I couldn't agree more!

3/3/2007 9:36:02 PM

The Watcher

Okay, fine, you win. God exists, but only sort of. He's real, but He's sort of half-faded out.

3/3/2007 11:09:44 PM

Rockstar

As opposed to creationism: God created us and anyone who thinks differently is the devil.

3/4/2007 12:14:46 AM

Sandman

The hundreds of half-ripened apples on the trees in my back yard call you a liar...

3/4/2007 12:16:36 AM

[i]McCulloch[/i]

Atheism: Either there is a God, or there isnt.
Right. There isn't

Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.
Wrong. There are many who believe that God created us through the process of evolution. Those people even have a name, theistic evolutionists.

3/4/2007 3:42:53 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Christianity: God exists so admit it or we'll fucking kill you.
Creationism: God poofed it all into existence. Admit it or we'll fucking kill you.

3/4/2007 4:51:43 AM

The Jamo

Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.

I can think of a hundred more possible scenarios that lead to the rise of life on this planet. That is not the issue. The point here is to find the one that works when challenged with available evidence. That model turns out to be abiogenesis followed by evolution. Which part don't you understand?

3/4/2007 6:53:00 AM

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