Even more dangerous than trusting media bias is our greater tendency to believe what “science” authorities tell us. As a warning, I always tell my biology students at home and audiences when I travel and speak, “Don’t believe anything I say, unless you can find sufficient evidence to make it worthy of your trust.” <sup>5</sup>
As biblical creationists, we must exercise humble, logikos <sup>6</sup> thinking, especially if it involves the “science” of psychology (psyche = soul). Most psychologists are also evolutionists, therefore many foundational assumptions regarding the “why” of man’s behavior are rooted in evolutionary philosophy, which then produces “therapeutic” fruit leading to confusion and destruction. <sup>7</sup> In trying to discover natural causes for mankind’s behavior, there is a basic rejection of the biblical doctrine of sin and its consequences.
[No, the footnotes are not links to studies providing proof of his claims--they're bible verses. What, you were expecting, logic?]
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That was doubly depressing -- first because of the notion that a creationist claims to be teaching biological science (when at best he's teaching a superficial parody of it) and, second, that punch line at the end, indicating that the citations aren't to scientific or documentary references, but to Bible verses. Depressing hardly begins to cover it!
Hopefully most of his students take his initial advice and ignore everything he says after that. It's the only honest aspect of his teaching!
~David D.G.
“Don’t believe anything I say, unless you can find sufficient evidence to make it worthy of your trust.”
Good advice. I will not believe you.
"Most psychologists are also evolutionists,"
That's a very slanted way to present something which is very probably true. Not only do most psychologists probably accept the ToE, but most other bright and/or educated persons probably accept the ToE, too.
"...which then produces “therapeutic” fruit leading to confusion and destruction."
Your contention is psychological treatment causes destruction? In accord with your first paragraph, please show that more than a tiny percentage of cases of psychological treatment have resulted in any significant destruction of the patient. Can't do it? Then I don't believe you.
"In trying to discover natural causes for mankind’s behavior, there is a basic rejection of the biblical doctrine of sin and its consequences."
Yes, because logic and reason force one to reject most of the Bible.
"As a warning, I always tell my biology students at home and audiences when I travel and speak, “Don’t believe anything I say, unless you can find sufficient evidence to make it worthy of your trust."
Couldn't agree more...but I don't think that the Bible has that much evidence going for it.
Even more dangerous... ...is our greater tendency to believe what “science” authorities tell us.
That couldn't possibly be because they have all of the facts and evidence on their side, now could it? Or that they exhaustively research and test everything, rather than relying on a single source and a blind hope that what you're claiming is correct.
Don’t believe anything I say, unless you can find sufficient evidence to make it worthy of your trust.
Too bad you probably don't really mean that, except about genuine science. I have a feeling that any student of yours who dared question the accuracy of the Bible would likely be reprimanded. If I'm wrong then that, at least, is a step in the right direction. But I doubt I am.
Don’t believe anything I say, unless you can find sufficient evidence to make it worthy of your trust.
So he's found sufficient evidence that Adam and Eve were tricked into eating a piece of magic fruit by a talking snake, and Gila monsters migrated across Europe, swam the Atlantic and made it to the US desert after being deposited on Mt. Ararat? Some biology teacher!
Actually, the idea that psyche = soul is misguided. The greeks did not differentiate between the soul and the mind, as more recent religions have. Psychology is the study of the mind, not the soul.
I am curious as to what he means by therapy leading to confusion and destruction though. He seems like a Scientologist.
Heh. Amazing. Reminds me of my old Biology teacher from my Sophomore year.
She would relate everything taught to God somehow, like so, "This is real. It just explains how The Lord did it. He made it so organisms could survive on their own so He wouldn't have to do so much work."
I had high hopes for "Don't believe anything I say, unless you can find sufficient evidence to make it worth of your trust." Then I checked the Bible verse he cites:
"After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God." (Acts 1:3, NASB)
So evidently "sufficient evidence" is just that the Bible says so... dammit. So close.
Regarding the fact that the Bible is not a scientific book AT ALL, that the proofs have been found(where do you think this computer comes from, you idiot)?, and that logic is the tool for science, sorry guy, but what you do is NOT science or Biology.
Fine choice, Sidney: use ancient Greek to impress the rubes that you're a "scientist". Don't bother thinking about what would happen if the croud actually used logical reasoning.
Socrates, we need you now, buddy!
1. If you're a biology teacher then you should provide evidence for what you're saying during class. Otherwise you're a shit teacher. Anyone can "teach" by spewing random crap and expecting the class not to trust them. If that's what is considered as "teaching", then I seriously pity that school you work for.
2. Indeed, as creationists, a little logic would not hurt you. Too bad that you never use it to scrutinise your religious texts.
3. Psyche =/= soul, dumbass. Fundie word redefinition marches on I suppose.
She would relate everything taught to God somehow, like so, "This is real. It just explains how The Lord did it. He made it so organisms could survive on their own so He wouldn't have to do so much work."
Any high school teacher says anything like that to my kid, we'll be having a little chat with the Principal that very same day. Then the Board. Then my lawyer.
"As a warning, I always tell my biology students at home and audiences when I travel and speak, 'Don’t believe anything I say, unless you can find sufficient evidence to make it worthy of your trust.' "
I usually don't bother to comment, but I'm fairly sure I've heard that quote attributed to Buddah. Lest anyone think this guy was inadvertently wise.
“Don’t believe anything I say, unless you can find sufficient evidence to make it worthy of your trust.”
If only every creationist managed to say this. They'd be out of business pretty damn fast.
Also, most scientists are "evolutionists". Psychologists aren't special in that regard. And all scientists similarly "reject" Biblical doctrine, because accepting unevidenced dogma is not how science works . I wish there was a way to force somebody to rescind their degree once they are proven to be simpering morons within their field of supposed expertise.
Most psychologists are also evolutionists
That's because psychology is a science so most of us accept scientific fact. Not that we're anything special in that regard, the vast majority of scientists accept the general principles of the ToE. A few evolutionary biologists may have specific questions but they're quibbling over minor details, not the theory itself.
produces “therapeutic” fruit leading to confusion and destruction
Um, any proof of that? Because destroying your patients is a pretty good way to get your license pulled.
there is a basic rejection of the biblical doctrine of sin and its consequences.
That would be because there is zero evidence for any of it.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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