Quote# 17533

[In response to a poll asking: Would you comitt genocide if God ordered you to? One poster writes 'I'd tell Him to send me to hell, but that I couldn't kill a baby for the sins of its parents. To me personally, God has to conform to morality, not vice versa. I don't worship Him because He is omnipotent.']

You're suppose to worship God because He is King and is Lord of our lives. In any kingdom, whenever a decree of the King is ignored or disobeyed there are consequence's.

You don't chose why you worship Him, He choses for you why you shpould worship Him!

nephilimiyr, Christian Forums 30 Comments [11/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Mike

I predict Nephilimiyr will be n jail in one year. His only defense is that God told him to do it.

11/29/2006 8:43:50 PM

Berny

At the risk of committing a Godwin; \"I was just following orders\" hasn't been a valid reason for doing something horrible for over half a century.
If your God orders you to commit an atrocity, he isn't the higher moral authority you pretend him to be.

11/30/2006 2:55:34 AM

MD20/20

I still don't understand why god needs people to commit genocide. The christians say he is omnipotent, yet he never seems to lift a finger. Is he just a lazy bastard or maybe...just MAYBE..a figment of their imaginations telling them to do what they want to?

11/30/2006 3:08:22 AM

upallnite

You don't chose why you worship Him, He choses for you why you shpould worship Him!\"

Well then, God choose rather poorly.

11/30/2006 3:13:06 AM

Julian

That voice you hear isn't God dipshit!

11/30/2006 3:32:36 AM

Mike

\"I need more blood Davey!\"


11/30/2006 5:16:43 AM

AriseNow

HORRAY for genocidal stupidity!!!

11/30/2006 5:33:09 AM

Em

So when we see movies where the boss orders his lackeys to shoot the innocent... why do we always think the boss is weak and a coward?
You're not representing God very well. You make him look bad. And you make Jesus cry.

11/30/2006 6:17:26 AM

Redhunter

That's just all part of being in 'God's Army'(tm). Sometimes you get to sing Psalms, sometimes you have to stone rebellious teens, sometimes you get to attent Sunday School, sometimes you have to ethnically 'cleanse' a country.

He choses for me why i should worship him? Well, I guess he chose for me to stop.

11/30/2006 7:23:13 AM

Matilde

Well, have you ever heard God saying you to do something?, have you ever considered that maybe what it´s called \"the word of God\" is maybe the opportunistic attitude of guys who wanted to gain kudos?. If you sticked less to the OT and more on the NT, you´d realise that one true God can´t in one statement say kill all the people and save only the virgins and in other say, through Jesus, the one who lives through the sword, thus through sword will be killed or curse the Zebedebs for suggesting to reduce to the ground an entire village. He can´t either to be so gentle with a syrio-Greek woman or a Roman legion soldier who ask him for help. This contradiction is enough to show you that the Bible is not inerrant, and from there onward, you have to reconsider in which circunstances you have come to believe that God is the lord and so on.
You can´t justify your own actions through a God you can´t see if you don´t show a higher moral standard, as God supposedly made as to his image and whom we aspire to be as perfect. In that case, as Jesus says in Matthew, what´s the merit?, I would worship them Odin or Zeus or the Mythras.

11/30/2006 8:52:46 AM

The Jamo

If god chooses for me then I guess he cannot blame me for not giving a toss about him and slandering everything that has even the most remote connection to him. Maybe god just likes to be humiliated.

11/30/2006 10:40:49 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

I just love asking fundies this question - it either reaches right down through their layers of mental fog and makes them seriously worried about their blind faith, or exposes them as utterly amoral automatons.

11/30/2006 12:48:02 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

In any kingdom where the king is a despotic asshole the people eventually revolt, and, as is repeated constantly throughout history, they usually prevail ... eventually.

11/30/2006 1:38:06 PM

Coffee

\"In any kingdom, whenever a decree of the King is ignored or disobeyed there are consequence's.\"

And when those decrees are evil and people refuse to obey, those people are considered heroes. That's the example I want to follow, not licking the boots of a murderous despot.

11/30/2006 2:37:15 PM

D Laurier

nephilimiyr.
Exactly which goD am I supposed to worship? and if he is a gOd, how is he also a king?
There is no \"lord\" of my life,
A bad king may be cast down by the nobles or the peasantry, and a new king raised up in his place., How is this relevent to your claims?

I worship anybody,, I like it that way,

11/30/2006 3:43:52 PM

Papabear

\"You're suppose to worship God because He is King and is Lord of our lives.\"

Well, the press release that the ancient Hebrews cooked up says that.


\"In any kingdom, whenever a decree of the King is ignored or disobeyed there are consequence's.\"

In any kingdom there must be evidence that the king actually exists before anyone should obey him.


\"You don't chose why you worship Him,\"

That's for damn sure.


\"He choses for you why you shpould worship Him!\"

Remember, God needs to show that he exists before one need contemplate his worship.

11/30/2006 3:55:27 PM

Amos

In any kingdom, whenever a decree of the King is ignored or disobeyed there are consequence's.
True, but morality isn't supposed to be about the consequences. You're supposed to do what's right even if the King is going to oppress you for it. If anything good can come from the book of Job, this is it.

If you disobey God, might he punish you? If he exists, perhaps. But fuck him. Anyone that wants you to be immoral can just fuck off, even if He's uber-powerful. Just do the right thing.

11/30/2006 5:26:12 PM

szenah

Baaa-aaa, baaa-aaa

11/30/2006 5:44:49 PM

Adrian

If god chooses for me then I guess he cannot blame me for not giving a toss about him and slandering everything that has even the most remote connection to him. Maybe god just likes to be humiliated.

Ow! >_< Don't say that kind of things, now I can't get rid of the mental image of the geezer in a gimp outfit, getting verbally abused and ass-fucked with a spiked strap-on dildo by a dominatrix in full SS uniform... I can't stop giggling like a schoolgirl...

11/30/2006 6:47:01 PM

Sevagram

\"You don't chose why you worship Him, He choses for you why you shpould worship Him\"

Nah - even God couldn't be that stupid.

11/30/2006 11:02:02 PM

Napoleon the Clown

\"Worship God or He'll Fuckin' Kill You!\" Award.

11/30/2006 11:33:02 PM

Cerebulon

I've been thinking about this comment for a while. Should God be held to human standards of morality?

Morality itself tends to fluctuate in time, and who is to say that generations from now, our highest ideals won't be viewed as obscene? Afterall, at one point the KKK, slavery, genocide and torture were all viewed as acceptable. They still are in parts of the world. So by what morals and during what time period would one hold an immortal being to?

Another argument against holding God to human morals is that It isn't human. We don't hold animals to human ethical standards. If we did, we would have to arrest them for murder, public indecency, rape, incest and a whole gamut of other immmoral crimes. Since God isn't a human being, holding him to our standards is likewise pointless.

So I suppose in retrospect, if God ordered me to commit genocide, I probably would. I would have to be reasonably assured that is was actually God. But if so convinced, I would have no moral problem with it. Like my Mother says :\"Son, I brought you into this world, don't think I won't take you out.\"

11/30/2006 11:56:27 PM

Man Called True

Well, pardon me for not handing over my free will, but your god does not impress me. Any deity that insists you refer to it as \"King and Lord\" and break its own commandments in its name has serious problems in the \"Earning my faith\" race.

12/1/2006 12:14:18 AM



You'd make a great Eichmann.

12/19/2011 2:32:12 AM



Stop capatialzing the god of Israel name, god is not a name but a title. Yahweh was one of El Elyon sons(before the translaters mess up the ancient texts by making Yahweh El Elyon and the only god). The god that we have been worshipping is a war god.The bible has been corrupt.

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