If we are descendant from apes, how come apes are still around?
I know this question has been asked several times, and I ask it again only because it's a valid question, which evolutionists still haven't answered, other than with a canned, ready-made non-direct response.
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Ok, you want a real answer? Humans ARE apes! But even assuming we're not, no one ever said we were descended from them. We share a COMMON ANCESTOR. I don't get why we have to repeat this so many times.
Ok, you want direct, here is direct.
That you can ask such a question with a straight face and not recognize the inherent stupidity of it, after it has been explained to you multiple times, indicates that you are too stupid to be educable.
"If we are descendant from apes, how come apes are still around?
In a stunning turnaround, I will ask the equally damning question, "Can God make a rock so heavy that even he can't lift it?" No canned response, now!
You must not be paying attention as we answer that question several times per week. Human being are not descended from any ape species on earth now. Humans and apes share A COMMON ANCESTRY. Way, way back, humans and apes diverged from the same stock. Do try to keep up with the rest of the class.
Because no evolutionist has ever, in the history of time, stated that humans are descended from apes. Only fundie twits who don't know science have said this. Typical fundie straw-man bullshit. Make a stupid claim no evolutionist has ever said, claim they said it, then ridicule it for it's stupidity.
"If we are descendant from apes, how come apes are still around?"
Sandman:
Stult: If you descended from your parents, how come they are still around?
NotMe, yeah I know, but the fundies keep insisting that evolutions claims that men evolved from a creature identical to modern apes. Then they sit around and go, "well, duhhhh...if humans came from apes, why are the apes still here?" and foolish men out there accept them at their word. I know that modern apes and humans, being both primates, evolved from a common, early hominid of the primate classification, a "proto-ape," if you will. I also know that humans, technically, can be classified as an "ape" if you are using the word to refer to primates. slightly complex concepts isn't really going to shed any light on the subject.
If only one fundie would come out and admit that they know evolution does not claim that men evolved from (modern) apes, I think I would have a heart attack from sheer surprise.
Actually we have answered it; you just pretend the answer doesn't exist. The apes still living in jungles retained their long arms for climbing and the level of intelligence necessary for finding leaves and fruit, while those that moved out onto the savannas and survived to tell the tale (i.e. people) generally wound up with longer legs for running, superior intelligence for coordinating mammoth hunts, etc.
This constant asking of the same stupid question is a symptom of irrational thinking running up against a problem that demonstrates its irrationality. When confronted with an answer that shows the thinking to be irrational, the mind simply "shuts it out," then pretends that there never was any such answer given in the first place, or that any answer given was meaningless -- leaving the fundie with the mistaken impression that his claims could not be refuted.
David D G:
We didn't descend from modern apes. The apes that are still around are not the apes we descended from. The apes we descended from are long extinct.it's a valid question, which evolutionists still haven't answered
Not to sound too arrogant, but it's a question that shows you haven't made any effort to study evolution or even to listen to the answers that have been given multiple times. You can't have an intelligent converstion with someone who knows nothing about a subject yet wants to challenge and argue about it.
Humans ARE apes. Just as apes are other species at the same time. It's like the whole "a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square" thing. We're all the same damned thing, branching off into different directions, but from the same tree trunk.
As there are 42 posts here already, I assume that someone has already made a coherent counter-argument.
Um... because in some environments, primates found an ecological niche which favored greater strength and vegetarian diets... those traits were favored for survival and the genes migrated toward what we now know as "the ape"... whereas some primates ended up in other, more dangerous climates - these situations favored semi-permanent bipedal behavior, brains more suited to complex tasks and inventiveness, and a more omnivorous diet - these primates became what we know as hominids.
stultorum, are you realy that stupid???,If we are descendant from apes, how come apes are still around?
Is like asking "if we are descended from parents, how come brothers and sisters are still around" ,
There are several species of ape alive today,
The gorilla, the orangutang, the gibbon, the chimpanzee, the bonobo, and the human,
ALL these species of ape are descended from a common ape ancestor species that is now extinct,
ALL humans are ONE species, and our closest relatives are the bonobos, They are our closest cousin species.
Both are descended from a now extinct species of ape that died out about 4 million years ago
First of all, stultorum, you'll need to define exactly what you think evolution means. We can't give you a response that you'll understand until we know exactly how much background education you need; we can't explain how humans evolved if you don't know what evolution is.
We evolved from a common ancestor with chimpanzees, and more distantly with other apes, and more distantly still with monkeys.
Time travel.
it has been answered legitimately multiple times.
also as for "a canned, ready-made non-direct response."
No we are not descended from modern apes. All modern apes (including humans) had a common ancestor a long long time ago. Different apes branced off at different times.
look up cladistic diagram modern apes
http://darwiniana.org/famtree4.gif
And if we are descended from a man made from dirt, why is there still dirt ?
I know this question hasn't been answered by Creationists, and I ask it again, only because it makes the logic of their own initial question look fucking stupid.
As Dr. Karl Kruszelnicki (the 'Aussie Brainiac') is wont to say 'There is no such thing as stupid questions, only stupid answers', but that only applies to intelligent people who can formulate a logical question in the first place. And fundies, you aren't intelligent.
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