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Ask any doctor, scientist, faith healer or soothsayer to bring back a dead man to life, or ask the doctor how it can be that someone stops breathing. Find out why none of them can rescuscitate a human back to life. If there wasn't a soul, then why can't they bring back that force of life?

~*Dagger Trepe*~, Eyes on Final Fantasy 40 Comments [9/4/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Phil

Because they're dead. Next!

9/4/2006 11:18:17 PM

xMinionX

Because once a person dies, their cells begin to break down. That's why you can't always revive someone with heart failure by putting them on machines to pump their blood. Some of the stuff might start working again, but most of it will have been 'off' for too long. Souls have nothing to do with it.

9/4/2006 11:20:23 PM

Matt

Its like computer memory. As soon as the electricity is gone, everything contained in the memory is lost.

9/4/2006 11:21:24 PM

CousinTed

The brain needs oxygen and blood to function. When someone dies their brain is deprived of air and blood. If they're deprived of said substances for too long the cells within their brain begin to break down. After a short while the brain degrades too much to function properlly even if the blood/oxygen flow is restored.

Peopl can and have been resusitated from the dead though, they just weren't dead very long (We're talking dead for a few minutes here)

9/4/2006 11:28:58 PM

Jocelyn

It seems that this guy is arguing against his own case. Wouldn't it make more sense that the \"soul\" (if it existed) would be easy to bring back, as opposed to the beating heart and brain functions?

9/4/2006 11:35:56 PM

Sandman

Occasionally, they can resicitate a human being back to life. Last year here a girl was under the ice for 22 minutes...not breathing, no heartbeat when she was recovered...12 minutes later she was back.

9/4/2006 11:37:17 PM

Amos

You can't bring the dead back to life because physics is against it. This is exactly the same kind of problem as unscrambling an egg or undoing an explosion, even if we're talking about a relatively fresh and undamaged body.

Giving into entropy...?_____ Easy--that's death.
Staving off entropy...?_____ That's life.
Reducing entropy...?______ It's been done, but always destructively. This is anything we build.
Reversing entropy...?_____ Only in your dreams!

/local rather than global entropy for each of these, of course

9/4/2006 11:41:37 PM

Papabear

\"\"Ask any doctor, scientist, faith healer or soothsayer to bring back a dead man to life, or ask the doctor how it can be that someone stops breathing.\"

The cessation of breathing does not constitute death. Medical staff routinely resuscitate persons who have stopped breathing.


\"Find out why none of them can rescuscitate a human back to life.\"

It is true that no one, doctor, scientist, faith-healer, sooth-sayer, priest, minister, butcher, baker or candlestick-maker can bring back someone who has actually died. Neither can your imaginary friends, God, Jesus and Holy Spirit. I know why that is. When a person dies, his/her cells decay and no long function. This decay is not reversible.


\"If there wasn't a soul, then why can't they bring back that force of life?\"

If there is a soul, why can't you prove it? Cellular decay has nothing to do with having a soul or not having a soul. The soul, as defined in the religious sense, is a fiction.

9/4/2006 11:42:42 PM

monkeyfinger

Actually, it's been done. Keith Richards has been clinically dead 3 times.

9/4/2006 11:43:17 PM

Napoleon the Clown

Necrosis. The cells are destroyed.

And people have been brought back after being dead for an hour, by the way.

9/4/2006 11:47:54 PM

WritingIsMyReligion

Entropy.

9/5/2006 12:17:20 AM

Huffers

does this mean ants have souls too?

9/5/2006 12:42:57 AM

Old Viking

Your brain is dead. Chances of resuscitation are poor at best.

9/5/2006 1:08:57 AM

Nicole

What's been said before. Because of entropy.

9/5/2006 1:42:46 AM

Coffee

Actually, we have been bringing the dead back to life for decades now. Then we elect them to Congress.

9/5/2006 2:02:36 AM

Julian

Huffers said it.

If that was the case, every living thing must have a soul, from the insects you swat, to the bacteria in your mouth you kill with mouthwash.

9/5/2006 2:10:47 AM

Mister Spak

\" If there wasn't a soul, then why can't they bring back that force of life?\"

If there is a soul, then why can't they bring it back and restore life?

9/5/2006 2:23:25 AM

Amigone201

I don't believe I'll be asking any faith healer or soothsayers for medical advice. Of course, if I believed in a soul, I might.

9/5/2006 5:19:46 AM

Redhunter

So brine shrimp and water bears have souls? They can \"come back to life\".

I'll ask those people how bad a man would be after being raised from the dead after THREE DAYS like the bible says. But I'd probably get a better idea watching a George Romero flick.

9/5/2006 7:17:00 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Excellent analogy, Matt.

Of course, the really tricky question is, if you were to reanimate a dead body that had been perfectly preserved and suffered no necrosis, would it be the same person?

9/5/2006 11:02:17 AM

g-21-lto

\"or ask the doctor how it can be that someone stops breathing.\"

I imagine enough damage to the parts of the brain responsible for allowing us to breate would suffice.

\"If there wasn't a soul, then why can't they bring back that force of life?\"

If by \"soul\" you mean \"proper function of the brain,\" you might have a point.

9/5/2006 11:24:40 AM

Wolf O'Donnell (SWHQ)

Excuse me, but is this fundie denying that Jesus rose back from the dead?

9/5/2006 12:04:36 PM

Barbarian

Analogy with The Magic Smoke Which Used To Power Your Computer Until The Day You Saw It Depart?

9/5/2006 2:10:15 PM

TDR

Three letters, dude.

C. P. R.

9/5/2006 4:32:27 PM

mad dog

<<Its like computer memory. As soon as the electricity is gone, everything contained in the memory is lost.>>
Waaaaaiittt, when I shut down my computer, the stuff I had on my hard drive is still there when I turn it back on.

9/5/2006 10:17:28 PM

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