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It is a constant mantra of activists, that people who are same-sex attracted are born that way and that there is no hope for change; i.e., they can never develop opposite-sex attractions or lessen their same-sex feelings.

No wonder the suicide rate among homosexuals is 3 to 5 times the average, even in locations around the world that are the most supportive of such a lifestyle! No hope is being given to the vast numbers of homosexuals who don’t want to be gay.

Their minds, bodies, and souls are telling them that there is something wrong with being sexually attracted to people whose bodies are not designed for committing such acts...so much so that every time a male homosexual commits one of the most common sexual acts on their partner, he actually damages the mind, soul, and body of that partner (1 Corinthians 6:18). When pressed, most any proctologist will admit to that, even those whose livelihoods depend on such patients.

Ask yourself, “Would a good God really create someone with an orientation to act in ways that He condemns and that does harm to his partners? Would a good God really create someone with an orientation that results in domestic violence rates, substance abuse rates, gay-related disease rates, and promiscuity rates that are off the charts in comparison to heterosexuals?" The questions answer themselves.

Dr. David Kyle Foster, Crosswalk 12 Comments [4/13/2019 7:01:19 AM]
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Colgate

Why do I suspect that "Dr." David Kyle Foster got his degree from the 'Close Cover before striking' university?

4/13/2019 7:27:55 AM

Malingspann

Dr. David Kyle Foster


He gives...alternative facts about homosexuality.

4/13/2019 7:37:37 AM

Anon-e-moose

Ted Faggard.

No wonder the Saltiness rate among fundie Christains is 100%.

Obergefell vs. Hodges & the 2013 Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act make sure of that: as does Romans 13:1-5.

The butts hurt themselves.

4/13/2019 7:44:10 AM

Kanna

"Would a good God really create someone..."

Objection, your honor. Assumes facts not in evidence.

4/13/2019 9:27:55 AM

Swede

Tall people are also born that way, and there is no hope for change for them either. Perhaps because there is no need for change for either of them...

Some say that sexual orientation is not either/or, but variations on a scale. If you're on either end, there is little or no possibility to develop opposite-sex (or same-sex) attraction, but if you're somewhere along the line, you have more or less attractions for both. Then you can ignore one attraction and "cultivate" the other.

The suicide rates are probably mostly due to the treatment they get from homophobes, not because they want to change but can't.
Again, you are what you are, and people ought to accept you as such.

Are you a homosexual, Davy? Have you ever talked to a homosexual? The ones I know find it perfectly normal to be attracted to people of the same gender, and find the thought of being attracted to, say, men instead, a bit icky. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, anymore than there is something wrong with being a man instead of a woman (which we all start out as in the womb).

Both men's bodies and women's bodies are designed for committing such acts, nitwit.
Doing 69 damages the mind, soul and body of your partner?

Ever hear of birth injuries, Davey-boy? Women who can't keep control of their pee, or even their stool, after giving birth? Women who can't lift their own child without terrible pains? What was that about "act in ways that [...] does harm to his partner" again?
Oh, and what about lesbians? Forgot about them again, have you?

Yup, the questions answer themselves. As there clearly are people with same-sex attractions, either a God has created them, or someone more powerful than him created them, or he doesn't exist, and they simply evolved like that, as it's beneficial in at least two ways (safety valve against over-population, and an extra caregiver to nieces and nephews).

4/13/2019 9:42:36 AM

Nemo

Since human knowledge of reproduction means we could reproduce even if nobody had a sex drive, instead performing the act as an occasional ritual, you could ask why a good God would cause people to experience sexual attraction at all, given all the problems that come with it. It makes as much sense as your question.

4/13/2019 2:14:52 PM

creativerealms

Close but no cigar. It was people like Dr. Foster here telling homosexuals that they need to change, that their behavior isn't natural and will Damon them to help for all of eternity that lead to their suicide rates. Those rates will likely goes down as acceptance goes up.

4/13/2019 2:33:36 PM

ChrisBP747

Heterosexual sex acts can also damage all of these things (and I want the scientific study that shows that anal sex hurts your soul!). You are also neglecting lesbians, as many of your ilk do, which have the most safe sex of any group.

And no, I couldn't choose to be homosexual. And if it is nothing inborn, then why do people have trouble changing to heterosexuality if they hate being gay so much? Face it, either god has made it an inborn trait (in which case condemning it would lead to a logical conundrum of god undermining the one thing he supposedly wants to uphold, i.e. free will) or it's just a normal, evolved trait that has some evolutionary significance. So there.

Also: even in societies that tolerate homosexuality it's still difficult to be for many, with peer pressure, religion and homophobes constantly telling you that you are wrong. I know that I had a difficult time for that reason to accept my own homosexuality when I was 14-16. I never thought about suicide, but it was still a really hard time for me. So in short: You are wrong and part of the problem.

4/14/2019 3:13:21 AM

Sasha

The questions answer themselves.

Because you sure don't have any answers, "Doctor" Foster.

4/14/2019 5:15:17 PM

Titania

"No hope for change"...Right, "doctor", they can't think straight - and they don't want to.

People like you can be SO proud of LGBTI suicide rates, since it's your attitudes that cause them. You're no doctor, BTW, I checked that out. His qualifications are M-Div - Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; D-Min - Trinity School for Ministry. You may as well have cut those degrees off the cereal packet.
https://www.amazon.com/David-Kyle-Foster/e/B001KI7YKU

So...what about straight couples who like the old "tradesman's entrance". AFAIK, that never meant they were not legally wed, indeed that could have been considered a consummation of those wedding vows, while chewing on the pillows in the honeymoon suite. It's no different for gay married couples, and 62% of my compatriots thought so.

4/14/2019 9:09:30 PM

Frogflayer

The questions answer themselves.


Indeed they do - the only rational explanation is that there is no god.

4/14/2019 10:30:08 PM



"It is a constant mantra of activists, that people who are same-sex attracted can be cured, IE they can marry someone of the gender specified by my religion in a ceremony
required by my religion.

4/15/2019 4:02:17 AM

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