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Alabama judge allows teen to sue on behalf of aborted fetus

A teenager in Alabama is suing an abortion clinic for terminating the life of his unborn child against his wishes. On Tuesday, an Alabama county court recognized the aborted fetus, "Baby Roe," as a plaintiff in the lawsuit, making the case one of the first of its kind, his lawyer said.

Ryan Magers, 19, of Madison County, claims his girlfriend got a medicated abortion at the Alabama Women's Center for Reproductive Alternatives in Huntsville in February 2017 when she was six weeks pregnant, according to legal documents, even though he urged her not to terminate the pregnancy. Alabama recognizes the personhood of a fetus, so Magers is suing on behalf of the fetus and himself.


“Baby Roe’s innocent life was taken by the profiteering of the Alabama Women’s Center and while no court will be able to bring Baby Roe back to life, we will seek the fullest extent of justice on behalf of Baby Roe and Baby Roe’s father,” Attorney Brent Helms said in a statement. “The time is ripe for consistency in Alabama’s jurisprudence: either we fully acknowledge the personhood of the unborn or we cherry pick which innocents we protect and which ones we trash for profit.”

Ryan Magers and Brent Helms, Fox News 15 Comments [3/12/2019 4:02:28 PM]
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Well, this convinced me, I'mma leaving this shithole for a better place.

The air quality could get better, but it's home now, so I ain't gonna complain too much. Earth looks rather nice from here tho, maybe I'll visit sometime again.

3/12/2019 4:43:29 PM


A certain lawyer from Alabama was elected to the Senate. Doug 'Piranha' Jones is pro-Choice.

Get bent, Brent.

3/12/2019 6:47:30 PM

Thinking Allowed

First off, at 19 years of age is not considered as a minor.

Secondly, I have to wonder if this lawsuit is a money grab by the "teen".

3/12/2019 7:24:20 PM


Or (here's an original thought) you let a woman decide for herself. She is the only one that knows her situation. You don't, so it would be arrogant and foolish of you to think yourself capable of deciding for someone else. Yes, I know, that never stopped you before...

3/12/2019 8:20:38 PM

The Crimson Ghost

Someone is looking for publicity!

Seriously though, Alabama, are you trying to dethrone Mississippi as the worst state in the union?

3/13/2019 6:39:56 AM

Doubting Thomas

Only in Alabama does a clump of cells get legal recognition as a person. Maybe because they're all barely sentient down there...

3/13/2019 7:52:23 AM

Doubting Thomas

@Thinking Allowed

Secondly, I have to wonder if this lawsuit is a money grab by the "teen".

Of that I'm sure. I have no doubt that anti-abortion groups got their lawyers to latch onto this case in order to strike a blow against an abortion clinic.

But shouldn't he be suing his girlfriend? The abortion clinic was just providing a service, it was the girl's decision to end the pregnancy. Oh, right, she doesn't have any money.

3/13/2019 7:55:23 AM


His problem shouldn't be with the abortion clinic. It should be with his ex-girlfriend. Unless the clinic forced her to have an abortion. Which it didn't.

I'm figuring she's his ex now.

3/13/2019 8:34:46 AM

Alabama Women's Center for Reproductive Alternatives should sue Magers for not using a condom.

3/13/2019 8:50:56 AM


Um, for the clinic to have done anything wrong, and thus actionable, shouldn't the 'teen' have gotten recognized as representing the fetus before the abortion?
And then urged the clinic, not the girl, to stop the abortion?

As far as they knew, it was her decision and she decided. It's not like they gave her an ultrasound and accidentally aborted the baby, against her wishes...

3/13/2019 9:31:29 AM


I do believe the man should have some say in an Abortion. Not enough so that the woman is forced to keep the developing fetus but it should at least be something they discuss.

That said why isn't he sueing his girlfriend? It would still be a bullshit claim but that would make slightly more sense.

3/13/2019 4:25:36 PM

K'Zad Bhat


Unfortunately while the teen may be going for a money, or may just generally be upset to have lost a potential child, the attorney's real reason for wanting this case is very likely involved in trying to force the issue of removing the decision from women entirely. It is what anti-abortion groups are much more often really about, proven by the fact that most talk about the sanctity of life, and the need to protect it, while also advocating for what they call complete self-initiative, where each person is completely responsible for every aspect of their own lives, including childhood medical care and education.

3/13/2019 5:57:48 PM


She was your girlfriend, not your incubator, sonny. Pity you can't take responsibility for your part in it all.

Then again, quite likely Magers is a patsy from some RWNJ pro "life" group.

3/22/2019 3:01:37 AM


Can you really be a plaintiff with no functioning nervous system? As the embryo is already aborted, it is of course dead, but it wasn't even legally "alive" before the abortion either.

What were Mr. Magers prepared to do for the future child, if Ms Girlfriend hadn't terminated?
Sure, the guy should have a say in the matter, as he's responsible for the embryo being there in the first place, but it's not parasitizing on his body, so he doesn't get the FINAL say.

At six weeks' pregnancy, it's not a fetus but an embryo. It's only four weeks since fertilization.

Six weeks is not late-term, it's about as early-term as you can get, as you usually don't know you're pregnant until your period is about a week late. It's a wonder she was able to get an abortion that quickly.

Profiteering? How? The only one who might make a buck here is the boyfriend. The girlfriend had to pay, and the abortion clinic probably didn't take much more than actual costs.

Personhood is usually given to living, breathing human beings with functioning nervous systems. No cherry-picking but a clear line; if you're viable outside the womb, you have more rights to the body than the woman has.

Embryos and fetuses are not trashed for profit. Most embryos that are aborted are smaller than a thumb-nail; how can you profit from something that small?

Oh, and who can I sue on behalf of my miscarried BABY? Where were its rights in the womb?

3/23/2019 8:58:30 AM

Philbert McAdamia

@ creativerealms
I'm figuring she's his ex now.

Yeah, but I'm figuring she's still family.

3/23/2019 9:34:26 AM

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