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The lawyers representing Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann and his family said Friday they have sent letters to media outlets, individual journalists, celebrities and Catholic organizations as the first step in possible libel and defamation lawsuits.
The list includes 50-plus names of organizations or individuals: from presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren to actress Alyssa Milano; individual journalists including Maggie Haberman, Ana Cabrera and David Brooks; national media outlets like the The New York Times, CNN, GQ and TMZ; and the dioceses of Covington and Lexington as well as the archdioceses of Louisville and Baltimore.
Nick, as well as his school, faced threats from those angered by video showing him, his classmates and Native Americans engaged in a much-debated confrontation. Some of the students wore "Make America Great Again" hats. Some students chanted and performed the tomahawk chop.
The legal counsel representing Nick and his family, Todd McMurtry and experienced libel and defamation lawyer L. Lin Wood of Atlanta, have said they will seek justice for the harm allegedly done to the teen.
McMurtry said an example of false reports were those saying Nick got into the face of Phillips.
McMurtry added his belief that some in the aftermath of the incident "permanently stained (Nick's) reputation."
McMurtry is with the law firm of Hemmer Defrank Wessels and has practiced law in Greater Cincinnati since 1991. He said a team of seven lawyers has been working full-time to review the media accounts of what happened.
This week they have prepared documentation preservation letters addressed to organizations and individuals they believe may have defamed or libeled Nick with false reporting, McMurtry said.
McMurtry said the following organizations and people are those who can expect to receive the letters, which were all sent by the close of business on Friday.

Todd McMurtry, Cincinnati.com 17 Comments [2/11/2019 1:37:18 AM]
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Citizen Justin

Just a lawyer lawyering.

2/11/2019 7:00:08 AM

Doubting Thomas

McMurtry added his belief that some in the aftermath of the incident "permanently stained (Nick's) reputation."


Then he shouldn't have been a MAGA hat wearing idiot with a smug smile on his face in the middle of that confrontation. But I love the message you're sending to all these kids... instead of changing their minds and attitudes to be tolerant toward all, attack anyone who dared say anything bad about them. And you're turning them into Trumps brownshirts.

2/11/2019 7:21:39 AM

Anon-e-moose

So you're defending an indefensible little virus, whose punchable face went viral: thus you becoming the tryhard you are, Turdy McMuhfreedomface Tryhard.

I hope your... 'case' gets punched in the face.

2/11/2019 7:32:39 AM



Can we sic these lawyers on O'Keefe for his baby parts videos?

Or the people who made the Acorn vids?

Or the Sandy Hook shootings are fake people?

Or pretty much the whole Fox network?

2/11/2019 8:19:44 AM

Kanna

They're lawyers. That's what they do. That's what they're paid to do. Nobody had to condemn the behavior of that smug little entitled brat; he did it himself, in front of cameras.

2/11/2019 8:32:19 AM

Thinking Allowed

Whether or not Nicky has been libeled, he's already found guilty in the public court of opinion.

2/11/2019 9:49:32 AM

HS

Well, yeah, he was awkwardly smiling, because HOW THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT A TEEN TO REACT WHEN SOME GODDAMN RETARD COMES BANGING A DRUM IN HIS FACE AND YELLING SOME BULLSHIT?!

My Goooooooood, this shit is like the microcosm of everything I hate about America's identity politics crap. I can't even choose which part of it I like the most. Is it the fact that no-one is calling out the BHIs for starting that bullshit in the first place? Is it the fact that since his bullshit got exposed, Chief Bang-a-bang has refused any appearance in the media, and no-one is calling him out either? Funny, seems like a quite a dose of racism of low expectations from the oh so tolerant liberals, who apparently believe it would be bad to call out POCs for acting like POSes, apparently believing it just comes naturally to them. Wanting to execute a white teen for committing a facecrime but letting an old Native get away with feeding the entire world with bullshit? Nice "equality" you seem to believe in, LOL.

You know what else is funny about this? The fact that there are still boneheaded retards throwing shit at the kids. Like, not even a day after the full footage came out, the reporters were rushing to apologize and correct their initial reporting, while their brain dead followers were attacking them for doing so. You know how there is the trope of supervillains getting screwed over by their dumb minions' idiocy? That's how I imagine those reporters felt when people were attacking them for apologizing and how they feel like every time they see their brain dead followers repeat that bullshit. The moment the full footage came out and it became obvious the only real idiots in there were the BHIs, the moment it became obvious that chief Bang-a-bang was pulling a load of shit out of his ass and feeding it to the media and the rest of America, that was the moment it became obvious it was over. They realized they fucked-up and lawsuits were coming, so they went into damage-control mode trying to save what they could... And their brain dead NPC followers were fucking it up by continuing the bullshit. Do those retards realize that every single hateful post is yet further proof of damage done to those kids' lives? Do they realize how much they are helping their lawyers with their stupidity? The funny thing is, no, they don't, they actually think continuing to post about wanting to kill those kids is going to do anything else than help their lawyers get a crap load of money in damages for those kids LOL.

Oh, and it's also pretty funny that the moment this blew over and the liberal media realized how much they fucked up, no-one has been reporting on those further developments except for far-right media like Breitbart, who report on it to boast about it. And let's be real, they have a pretty good reason to feel good about this.

2/11/2019 4:37:39 PM



HS,

Kill yourself, Russian bot. And stop dehumanizing people with that NPC bullshit.

2/11/2019 6:16:26 PM

Gabriel LaVedier

Who's paying your fees, lawyer team? Is it the Koch suckers in the audience? I'll bet you're just full to busting of loads of filthy Koch money.

2/11/2019 6:57:56 PM

Citizen Justin

@ HS

Nathan Philips has done interviews. Here's one (it's the Guardian): https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/04/nathan-phillips-his-story-hate-division-covington

It's common knowledge that the Black Israelite movement are generally assholes. (Like Farrakhan's mob except a different religion.)

Nick Sandmann's filmed response is excusable, but there is still footage of the other Covington students acting like pricks.

Can you please explain what an NPC is?

2/11/2019 7:02:04 PM

K'Zad Bhat

Gee, I like how we can even get commenters who make a decent point, and then ruin it by acting like a whole line of more bullshit just reinforces that point.

Yes, attacking the kids the way they have been is overreacting to a problem they didn't create. Most of what they did wrong was bad reactions to a stressful situation . . . kind of like you expect from a bunch of kids.

Yes, the Hebrew Israelites are some pretty horribly racist shits who go out of their way to cause problems. Did you know that in prisons, Hebrew Israelites can't do their Passover observation with the rest of the Jews, because of their insistence that the real Jews were all black, the others are just pretenders?

But the whole thing of calling out everyone who doesn't react with perfect equanimity as an NPC is just a load of bullshit, as well as acting like the kids are entirely excused because BHI were assholes, and yeah Nathan Phillips took an overly confrontational reaction to the kids on confrontational response to the Israelites. He and the other elders would have done better just walking up to the kids and trying to talk them down, while ignoring BHI, because there's no getting through to someone who has decided their skin color makes them superior anyway. But hey, even they probably didn't see all that had gone on before, so didn't really know what was up yet.

@Citizen Justin

As far as NPC, he's trying, like so many others, to bring gaming terms into reality, and keeps missing what it really is. NPC is Non-Player Character, all the characters in a game that are not controlled by a player. To these assholes, NPCs have all kinds of unpredictable reactions, that they can somehow easily predict, at least after that fact. This is even though in games NPCs all pretty similar reactions, that are pretty predictable once you get the pattern, because dozens, and in some games hundreds, of NPCs all have to be pre-programmed in every bit of their behavior. Much of the code is copied and pasted, basically, and that's how these dicks think everyone they hear about in the news is reacting. But if they're all NPCs . . . they'd be much easier to predict and to manage.

The whole NPC thing is really used to dehumanize people, to try to make others seem like something that doesn't think or feel, somehow different from the one talking about NPCs. They think this because they look so shallowly at a single reaction, watching from a single angle, so they never really know how deep a person's reaction really is. Never understand that two people with the same reaction are often still reacting to two different stimuli.

2/12/2019 1:16:56 AM

Swede

What harm has allegedly been done to the teen?
Chanting white-supremacy shit is not as fun when you're seen doing it on international media?

If the pictures of the boys smirking in the face of a Native elder are taken out of context, it would be interesting to know what context they were taken from.

Perhaps young Sandmann's parents ought to have taught him that actions can have consequences, even for spoiled rich-boys. (His family must have money if they can afford to have seven lawyers working full time surfing the net.)

2/12/2019 2:08:15 AM

HS

@K'Zad Bhat

I'd actually say I'm using "NPC" exactly as it should be used, by referring specifically to the people who have not changed their response to this affair no matter how much the public knowledge about it has, almost like they had only a certain set of pre-programmed responses which they find impossible to betray. The moment that full footage came out, the moment it turned out the entire narrative which was sold to the media was made-up bullshit, the moment reporters started to pretty much trip over each other as they rushed into damage-control mode by issuing corrections and apologies, that was the moment this entire affair should have ended. And yet, there are still idiots out-there posting pretty much the same crap now that they were the first moment the media decided to make this pathetic non-story a global news event. They are so idiotic they even attack the reporters for apologizing (something which you'd expect any even slightly intelligent person in such a situation to have done). Of course they were apologizing, it's because they aren't complete retards, realized they fucked-up, realized their actions have serious consequences due to their positions, and realized that lawsuits were very likely coming, so, yeah, they immediately switched to damage-control mode to save whatever they could.

It's over people. Deal with it. Your side spectacularly self-pwned itself and the only hope you have now is trying to limit the damage you've done to yourselves as much as possible. If that's even possible, LOL. Does no-one realize how ridiculous this entire shit looks like now? First your media made a 20 second video into a global news story (instead of leaving it as a non-story no-one should honestly care about as it should have been), then several segments of your country's population underwent what honestly can't be called anything else than as a mix of mass hysteria and brain aneurysm over it (a 20 second no-context video for fucks' sake), and now the most likely outcome seems to be that some kid is going to get a couple millions' worth of libel/slander damages just because of a 20 second video of him doing pretty much nothing. Does no-one realize how ridiculous every single event of this entire affair looks like, and how surreally stupid it all is together??

As I've already wrote, the best example of how idiotic this shit is, is looking at the coverage it's got. First, the liberal media were treating it pretty much like some sort of a sign of end-times and were completely losing their minds over it. Then, they realized they colossally fucked-up and started rushing to apologize. Now, basically no-one is reporting on how it's evolving now, except local media (of course), and far-righters like Breitbart whose "coverage" of this is basically a barely disguised boasting and schadenfreude on the liberal media's idiocy. And they have a pretty good fucking reason to be happy about this, since even the idiots in there (or hell, most idiots anywhere) can easily see where this is likely heading, and it's a direction that's very far from bad for them. And all of that just because of their competitors' idiotic trigger-hapiness in turning an idiotic non-story into something people actually started to care about. Utterly self-inflicted wound that's already cost them a lot of reputation, is likely going to cost them a lot of money, and made a lot of their fans look like complete psychos.

2/12/2019 10:09:37 AM

Anon-e-moose

^ tl;dr

...meanwhile a little MAGA hat-wearing retard still has a very punchable face.

And a very destroyable public image. Is it the hat? It can't be that much a dead giveaway, amirite...?!

This little retard = Timmy Robbingscum*. But then, that inferior subhuman Nazi retard did his own image no favours. There's always an alternative to thinking like a Nazi retard...:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpmWo8f7y2c



...not thinking like a Nazi retard.

This little retard could have always been elsewhere wearing a different hat: with different opinions under that headgear...!

By being where he was, and with that kind of headgear, any so-called 'libel' he ultimately brought upon himself.

Or maybe lil' Nicky is a merely a crisis actor?:

*- http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=138091&Page=1#2149462

@Indicible

Does Tommy Robinson even exist? Is he not a crisis actor paid by the alt-right to make themselves the victims? [/tinfoil hat]


You decide, o FSTDTers...!

2/12/2019 11:04:28 AM

Kanna

@HS

Picture. Thousand words.
That is all.

2/12/2019 1:11:04 PM

K'Zad Bhat

@HS

Oh, it's my media now? Why am I not getting the advertising revenue?

You never change your own reactions, always finding that the white guy is somehow being abused, and everyone around him is the abuser. I just told you how everyone was wrong . . . including the white kids. But you equate me, and all of us, with a few people who did get latched onto one smirking white kid.

Deal with it, everyone is wrong, usually multiple times in their lives. And we never do get the full story, not even now. Even showing "the whole video" (no, they didn't) we still haven't seen what the Covington kids were doing between the Hebrew Israelite chants and the tribal elders getting in their faces, but what we have seen is those kids trying to provoke further reaction without having the courage to actually put their hands on anyone.

So, if you're still defending these kids as the innocent victims . . . why are you not the NPC programmed to protect every white person in existence?

More importantly, again . . . where's my damn advertising money?

2/12/2019 1:34:27 PM

HS

I just told you how everyone was wrong . . . including the white kids.


Deal with it, everyone is wrong


Of course, but there are also degrees of being wrong. In this specific case, adults and seniors doing dumb shit are more pathetic than teens doing dumb shit (this also applies in general). Yeah, sorry, I'm not going to judge dumb teens as the same as adults and seniors who should know better. It's illegal to fuck them because they are dumb teens, it's illegal for them to drink because they are dumb teens, it's illegal for them to drive because they are dumb teens, yet despite being dumb teens they should be held as much responsible for their shitty behaviour and judged as harshly as adults and seniors who really should know better? Yeah, everyone was wrong in this case, but even when you look only at the differences in mental capacities, it's obvious some people in there were much more wrong, and should be judged much more harshly than others.

But you equate me, and all of us, with a few people who did get latched onto one smirking white kid


I'm not equating anyone to anything, I'm just ranting about one of the most outrageous displays of collective idiocy I've ever seen. "A few people", really? Have you even been online when this non-story got steam thanks to overzealous reporters who apparently thought they've found THE story of their careers? It seemed like a fucking public execution. I don't think I've seen a single measured reaction posted. You've had reporters and columnists for various national media, as well as various other media personalities (and, of course, millions of their fans and followers), having mental semi-breakdowns in front of their computers. Don't kid yourself that there was anything even slightly normal about the mass hysteria which broke out then, there wasn't.

2/13/2019 8:17:56 AM

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