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Woman steps outside in alluring clothing that shows off half of her body and gets men to drool over her, and then gets raped... uh, yes, she contributed to the rape. Maybe if she hadn't been doing her best to try and get men to look at her and sexually desire her, then maybe she wouldn't have contributed a rapist being pushed over the edge?

Just like the rich guy walking down a ghetto street at night example contributed to the mugging by flaunting his wealth in the poor part of town with no protection or common sense.

Xaelai , MMO Champion 16 Comments [10/11/2018 1:55:34 PM]
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checkmate

maybe she wouldn't have contributed a rapist being pushed over the edge


Right! And when I whack you in the head with a baseball bat, you contributed to my attack because you were saying such absolutely stupid things and got me mad.

10/11/2018 1:59:11 PM

Kanna

We will believe your analogy when we see rich men being ridiculed and demeaned in court for being rich, and the thief is given a handshake and a round of applause. Maybe even a Supreme Court seat.

10/11/2018 2:51:41 PM



So you have no self control and should be locked up? I mean if her wearing something revealing does that to you then you're a danger to her and others. If you do have self control her clothing isn't a problem. Thus you are wrong. Choose well

10/11/2018 4:00:43 PM

Canadiest

Stats show very low correlation with your Christian strawman in a bikini story.

Most women and girls who are raped are raped by someone they or their family knows, nothing to do with hanging around near naked with deviants.


10/11/2018 4:50:50 PM

Citizen Justin

There's plenty of rape in societies where women are pressured to 'cover up'.

Probably more, actually, although statistics will be impossible to come by since communities where women are pressured to 'cover up' are shit.

10/11/2018 4:53:21 PM

Titania

What was she wearing?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7147632.stm

All you apologists can go to buggery!

10/11/2018 9:33:23 PM

Malingspann

Alfred E. Xaelai: "What, me a rape apologist?"

10/12/2018 1:48:31 AM

K'Zad Bhat

And here I am asking the question "when did it become okay to mug a rich man just because he's walking down a ghetto street?" Seriously horrible analogy.

10/12/2018 2:40:32 AM

Dunbaratu

How hard is it to understand that not protecting yourself well enough from the actions of others still doesn't make you responsible for those actions of others? It's simple and basic moral math here. It's not hard to work out yet time and time again these dumbasses pretend they don't understand it. Failing to dodge doesn't make you responsible for getting punched. Failing to take precautions against mugging doesn't change the fact that the blame for the mugging belongs to the mugger not the muggee. Failing to lock your front door doesn't change the fact that the burglar is still at fault for choosing to walk in and take your stuff.

And rapists are still responsible for rape, not the rapee.

10/12/2018 4:31:10 AM

Doubting Thomas

So if I live in a nice house which gets burglarized, did I contribute to the burglary? What about personal responsibility on behalf of the people committing the crimes?

And for the 3,283,569,302,496th time, rape isn't about lust, it's about power. And if you can't keep yourself from raping a woman no matter how she's dressed, then you deserve to be locked up.

10/12/2018 5:21:09 AM

Swede

Woman steps out in expensive clothing, that shows off her wealth, and gets thieves to drool over her and then gets mugged. Did she contribute to the theft? Maybe if she hadn't been doing her best to try and get thieves to look at her and greedily desire her stuff, then maybe she wouldn't have contributed a thief being pushed over the edge?
(Bad grammar preserved from original.)

Hey! You did not say that the woman in the first part was walking down a red-light-district road (or similar) at night. She just stepped outside; your two stories don't fit each other.

Maybe boys/men ought to be taught enough self-control not to let their little willies do the thinking for them?

I'm with Kanna; when thieves get a pat on the back and just a few weeks in jail for being a promising swimming athlete, and the victim gets scolded and ridiculed in court for wearing expensive clothes in public, then we'll accept your analogy.

Unless you're wearing a burka, you are showing off your body when stepping outside, regardless of clothing.

Besides, most people are raped by someone they know, a husband, father, brother, colleague, class-mate, boyfriend or friend. Little old ladies in retirement homes are raped, women in burkas or hoodies and sweatpants are raped, small babies and toddlers are raped, boys and men are raped.

10/12/2018 5:55:49 AM

Anon-e-moose

...meanwhile, there's this thing called 'Self Control'. It's the reason why I don't have a criminal record for so much as spitting on the pavement.

So what's your excuse, OP: even for so much as thinking of what you said: and the reason for you doing so...?!

10/12/2018 8:34:44 AM

Chloe

Why are men in control then if they can succumb to rape because of clothes?

10/13/2018 3:22:47 AM

DueProcess

@Kanna
Another legal “expert” who thinks that what he sees on Law and Order SVU actually occurs in courtrooms during trials.
No, alleged victims are not “demeaned” in court by “evil” defense attorneys like you presume.
Rather, these attorneys fulfill a heroic role in advocating for their clients in a very difficult situation for them. But I guess your prosecutor on SVU can’t teach you that right?

10/14/2018 10:29:36 AM

Passerby

How about the flipside? What about a man who goes out looking like someone who won't be missed? Or who looks so deliberately unremarkable or overly cautious that they "have" to be up to something, so neighbourhood watch pulls a gun on them? Or the failure to take into account that more modest jeans drive "righteous" men to lust because even though there's no skin showing they are vaguely reminded that women have legs and asses? Or general raging against the man's garment thing. Or if a women went out in say a fully concealing burkha or veil she'd be attacks on the grounds of religious intolerance?

When you give people the opportunity to use excuses to deflect personal culpability for actions they take against others onto the others they act upon you'll find their ability to invent those excuses truly impressive.

10/14/2018 11:17:41 AM

pyro

@DueProcess

I'm sure the defense attorney, and probably the prosecuting attorney, are very professional. The trial itself is probably quite boring.

It's all the hubbub and news hype surrounding it (like the assholes on MMO Champion) that are demeaning.

10/14/2018 11:24:48 AM

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