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David Golson, the man who was accused of swiping a Snickers bar from a Brooklyn 7-Eleven last year and was stripped, bitten and detained by store employees, is suing the Flatbush establishment and the building owners in a lawsuit filed in Bronx Supreme Court.
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Despite his repeated requests to be released and his claims of innocence, defendants through its employees pulled, hit, bit and stripped plaintiff of almost all of his clothes with the exception of his underpants, shoes and socks the lawsuit states, according to Courthouse News. "All of this was being recorded on the store's video surveillance camera, which shows that plaintiff was not resisting but merely pleading to be released even as his clothes were being torn off of his body


(MalicenWndrland):
Someone stole my Iphone & if I had found them I would bit & kicked & much more. I hate theives so he should have kept his hands off of the merchandise.

(coppertop):
Is it terrible that I find this hilarious...I hate a thief. He got what he deserved, yes the biting was extreme but I bet he won't try to steal from another 7-11 again.

(Kingsstl)
He shouldnt be stealing, I dont feel sorry for him

The biting was a bit extreme but if I was on the jury I wouldn't grant him one dollar

What they did is ILLEGAL. Even if they did suspect him of stealing, concealing alone is not proof of theft. You actually have to allow to customer to walk past the cash registers and out of the door before you can attempt to legally detain him.

Dude's hand barely brushed up against the handle before they ambushed him and publicly stripped him. Oh, and plus the biting? For a $1.50? Yeah, they're going to lose. Phantom Snicker and all.


Are we really taking up for a thief?

In the end, had he not been trying to steal none of this would have happened


I hope you're not a small business owner (with this mindset)

We can agree to disagree but I hope this guy doesn't get a dime

I'd obviously be a bias juror as I've had my car and home burglarized before so I have no sympathy for a grown able bodied man trying to steal a candy bar

So what if he got bit......DONT STEAL

kingstl ,maliceinwndrland,coppertop, Lipstick Alley 16 Comments [9/14/2018 3:31:53 AM]
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Citizen Justin

Speaking as a security guard myself, I'm appalled by this. I mean, if you want to abuse someone the very first thing you do is get them to a place the cameras don't cover!

Seriously though stripping and biting someone is a little bit over the top.

9/14/2018 4:26:02 AM

Malingspann

his claims of innocence


Were those claims true?

9/14/2018 4:51:35 AM

Swede

"In the end, had he not been trying to steal none of this would have happened"

Yeah, because no innocent person has ever been detained, arrested, tried and convicted, or shot to death in his own living room by a cop who went into the wrong apartment by mistake.
Noooo sireee!

9/14/2018 5:23:09 AM

Doubting Thomas

But HE WASN"T A THIEF! There doesn't appear to be any evidence that he actually stole anything, and even if he did their response was not appropriate.

Jeez, this sounds like the mentality of "Let's give him a fair trial, then hang him!"

9/14/2018 5:52:51 AM

ChrisBP747

People seem to forget that criminals have human and constitutional rights too and that is (in my opinion) a growing problem in the US especially. And of course they are also often forgetting that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing. And I won't even get into the fact that this was massively disproportional retribution for an allegedly stolen Snickers bar.

9/14/2018 6:08:55 AM

Kanna

@Malingspann

I think we are only hearing a fraction of the story, so it's hard to judge. I'm certain he was fighting back during the encounter, not just "requesting" to be released.

9/14/2018 7:27:16 AM

Anon-e-moose

Due Process.

Otherwise, you've got "The Purge".

And even in that scenario, for 12 hours a year all crime is legal: and not just alleged shoplifting.

'Alleged'. You may need to go to Law School to fully understand that word.

9/14/2018 7:31:21 AM

Dr. Razark

Vigilantism is great, until the mob turns on you.

9/14/2018 9:20:01 AM



Didn't it turn out that he didn't even have a candy bar in his possession?

Also, it's telling that these posters think committing a violent felony against someone because you think they might have committed a petty misdemeanor is perfectly reasonable...

9/14/2018 10:03:55 AM

KingOfRhye

I'd obviously be a bias juror as I've had my car and home burglarized before so I have no sympathy for a grown able bodied man trying to steal a candy bar


Since those things are soooo comparable....

9/14/2018 10:08:00 AM

SpukiKitty

DUDE! Even if the guy did something wrong; He doesn't deserve getting manhandled and stripped!

Damned macho, "violence-first" authoritarians! Apparently "taking the high road" is too "wimpy" for them!

9/14/2018 12:13:09 PM

Zinnia

I can mostly understand the stripping part - if they couldn't find the candy bar in their pocket or wherever, maybe it's hidden inside their clothes. A strip-search is still kind of over-the-top for just a candy bar, especially since they sometimes get suspected shoplifters wrong.

The biting displays the professionalism of an out-of-control toddler. Assuming he really wasn't fighting back, the hitting was also unprofessional, but sadly all-too-common.

9/14/2018 2:16:53 PM

Swede

Addendum

The term "small business owner" always makes me imagine something like this. Yes, it's offensive, but imagination is seldom "PC".


9/15/2018 8:37:12 AM

creativerealms

I use to shop lift as a kid. I eventually got caught. No special horrible punishment. Getting caught was enough.

9/15/2018 12:17:29 PM

TB Tabby

America has a HUGE problem with Stern Father Morality. The notion that anyone who breaks the law deserves any kind of abuse heaped upon them has been used to justify some serious human rights abuses.

Children fleeing drug cartels separated from their parents and locked in kennels? "Should've followed the law!"

Prisoners kept in appallingly poor living conditions and forced to perform slave labor with no effort on rehabilitation? "Should've followed the law!"

Suspected terrorists held without trial and subjected to torture even though we know for a fact it's an ineffective method of interrogation? "Should've followed the law!"

The concept of a punishment being so excessive that it causes greater harm than the crime is completely alien to them...except in the case of rapists, crooked CEOS and politicians, or ranchers who don't want to pay what they owe, of course.

And that's not getting into the possibility that the people meting out justice could be mistaken. Just consider for the sake of argument, what if he DIDN'T actually shoplift? That would mean that these "heroes" just beat and abused a person for no reason at all. That would mean that he DID follow the law, and he got punished anyway. That sort of thing is why we have checks and balances, why criminals have guaranteed rights, and why you should leave the punishment up to the courts. Even if you're absolutely, 100% certain that he's guilty.

9/15/2018 3:01:35 PM



Let us assume, for sake of argument, man was innocent. Still justified? If so it isn't about justice, it's about authoritarian abuse. If so you damn well better be super polite, never go 5 miles above posted speed, better not even jaywalk. Or same happens to you. Even if merely accused. That's wbat you want and advocate. Choose well

9/15/2018 4:05:20 PM

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