Quote# 139667

Guest Verified:
Even abortionists don't deny that they are killing a baby when they commit an abortion. Medical science has proven that irrefutably. Abortionists now merely argue that it's all right to kill a child if it is young enough.

Fandango:
“Even abortionists don’t deny that they are killing a baby when they commit an abortion.”
Strictly speaking that is untrue. They would definitely not use that terminology. They would say they were terminating a pregnancy or a fetus.

Guest Verified:
You must have missed the Planned Parenthood tapes, or the abortionist who said, "Of course it's a baby!" when talking about what he/she was aborting.

Fandango:
I probably missed a few, but they'd be the exceptions. Generally speaking they wouldn't refer to them as having personhood because lack of personhood is the cornerstone of their argument. They certainly don't see it as murder, which is technically correct because murder applies only to living people outside of the womb.

Guest Verified:
No it doesn't. Murder applies to living people, and babies in utero are living.

Fandango:
Well, no, otherwise people would go to jail for murder when an abortion took place.

Guest Verified:
Except they don't. Modern science proves that's a living being inside the womb. Abortionists know it. However, sin is prevailing so much that abortionists/murderers get away with murder all the time. Rarely is justice served anymore.

Fandango:
It isn’t really a science issue. Science doesn’t argue about the fact that it’s the termination of a living thing, they would tell you that the fetus has the potential to become a baby but isn’t one yet. And before that it is a zygote. Everyone’s in agreement on the science, just not the terminology.

Guest Verified:
Science proves it's a living baby. Abortionists know they are killing babies.

Guest Verified, Christian News Network 8 Comments [8/10/2018 4:31:15 AM]
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Malingspann

BABY

Official definition: What a fetus becomes at birth.

The definition used by people like Guest Verified: What an egg cell becomes when fused with a sperm cell.

8/10/2018 5:26:01 AM

KingOfRhye

Ugh...this guy totally fails to understand what "proof" means. Among other things he fails to understand.

I recently made the mistake of responding to something he said on Christian News Network. It was a mistake because he obviously wasn't interested in much of a conversation...since he started up with saying "you've proved my point" but absolutely refused to elaborate on that, even after I asked him twice.

And, oh yeah, according to him at least, atheism is a religion, because it's "based on a system of beliefs"...yet he won't tell me what he thinks that "system" is.

Really, I've never talked to anyone on Christian News Network who I've wanted to give a good smack in the face more than this guy. And I've talked to a lot of people there. Amos and the like.

8/10/2018 5:43:37 AM

creativerealms

The planned parenthood tapes? Those obviously edited and screwed tapes where the "reporters" couldn't find any real dirt on planned parenthood so they just made shut up? Those tapes?

8/10/2018 5:58:56 AM

Doubting Thomas

A clump of cells is not a baby.

8/10/2018 6:10:53 AM

Anon-e-moose

Hosea 13:16.

When Khorne forbids the slaughter of the defenceless, thank you for admitting that your deity is infinitely worse than a war god in "Warhammer 40,000", OP.

8/10/2018 8:20:00 AM

Swede

Embryos, at the time when almost all abortions are done, are not technically alive, as they have no functioning nervous system.

A baby is a child between birth and it starts to toddle around.

You perform an abortion, not commit one.

Obviously forged tapes and ONE medical person is your "proof"?

Pro-choice people generally see the woman as having more right to her body than the embryo/fetus has, during the first half of the pregnancy. By the time it would be viable outside the womb, i.e. by the time it's technically alive, the fetus has equal right to the woman's body, and during the later stages, it has more rights to the body than the woman has. Only if her life is at risk can the fetus be removed, and by that stage it's usually seen as a birth, and efforts are made to save the newborn if possible.

In some countries, women go to jail for up to 30 years for having miscarriages. Justice is definitely NOT served here.
Just the other day, the Argentinian government voted NO on giving women rights to their own bodies.

Living babies, to this dolt:



People die every day from lack of donated blood. Not donating blood is "murdering" those living people.
Should we force everyone, who's healthy, to donate blood once a month?
(And yes, I would gladly donate blood, but I eat strong medicines for epilepsy and high blood pressure, so I'm not allowed to donate blood.)

8/10/2018 8:47:30 AM

Jocasta McFucken

Really, I've never talked to anyone on Christian News Network who I've wanted to give a good smack in the face more than this guy. And I've talked to a lot of people there. Amos and the like.


Isn't that the truth? This guy is bottom of the barrel worst over there, hands down. He's so smug and obnoxious you can only imagine he goes through life with people bashing his face in all day long. When you prove him flat-out, hands down, drop dead WRONG on things his response is to give you one of his mocking little smileys and dodge the point you're making. People should get in his smug little face a lot more often.

He's also the worst kind of fundie - evolution denying, science hating, Catholic bashing head-in-the-sand idiot.

8/10/2018 9:02:17 AM



Guest verified knows he is lying

8/10/2018 12:13:29 PM

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