Martin: Why should courts have the ability to make such legal decisions? That is the job of the executive, not the judiciary.

glenbo: Neither should be illegal as both abortion and same-sex marriage is nobody's business and should be nobody's decision other than those who are at the center of them.

Martin: So you're saying that rape and murder should be legal. €Of course the problem with same-sex 'marriage is that it isn't marriage, it's just a fraud perpetrated on those involved. Since marriage requires a man and a woman to consummate it, your same-gender 'marriage can never be consummated.

glenbo: Not at all. Please don't put words in my mouth. That is manipulative. A woman's pregnancy decisions should only be made by the one who is at the center of it. "Of course the problem with same-sex 'marriage' is that it isn't marriage" Two people of the same gender getting legally married causes NO problems. "it's just a fraud perpetrated on those involved." Marriage is a legal contract. A legal contract entered into by two consenting adults is not fraudulent. "Since marriage requires a man and a woman to consummate it, your same-gender 'marriage can never be consummated." There is no mandate in any marriage law in any state that requires "consummation."

Martin: You said that abortion should be legal. The baby is at the centre of the pregnancy, more so than the woman. Marriage is the joining of two people into one, the contract is of minor importance. Two persons of the same gender cannot be so joined. They had to remove consummation from marital law in the UK because it was impossible to fulfill in same gender 'marriage'. Non consummation was a cause for anulment.

glenbo: Wrong. The mother is, and she is the only one best suited to make decisions, not total strangers who will ignore the child once born. "Marriage is the joining of two people into one," "One" what??? "Two persons of the same gender cannot be so joined." Yes they can legally. And there is no mandate in any marriage law that stipulates any kind of "joining" whatever that means. Marriage is a legal union. It applies to all genders. And what gay people do with their private lives is non of your business. It is not your decision to make if gay couples can wed. Sexual copulation is NOT a mandate in marriage law. You seem to be fixated on sexual behavior. That's just way too creepy.

Martin: No, the baby is at the centre. There is no decision to be made except for those relating to a safe delivery of a healthy baby. One married couple. The law has no say. Marriage is the joining of a man and woman. It would be nice if those who are 'gay', whatever that means, would keep their private lives to themselves and not force it on the rest of us. You know, it's a bit strange how you haven't worked it out that marriage is about sex, two persons of opposite gender joining together in sex. And what do your 'gay' people do but simulate sex?

glenbo: To assert gay couples getting married somehow "forces" something on you is absurd. Gay couples seeking marriage is none of your business. You fixate on sex and not on two people being in love and wanting to protect each other and their children. That's just plain creepy.

Martin: Homosexuality is nothing to do with love. So you cannot claim that they want to marry because of love. It is lust, plain and simple. Of course, what they are doing would be none of my business if they didn't insist on trying to make the rest of us accept it. Ask those making wedding cakes.