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Family Friendly Gaming, the industry leader in covering the family friendly video games is shocked that Nintendo has come out and attacked marriage. One radical (Tye Marini from Mesa, Arizona) stirred up social Internet circuits on a campaign to radically change Tomodachi Life. What did he want? He wanted Nintendo to redefine marriage in this Nintendo 3DS game to fit his extremist views on homosexuality. He wanted to play homosexual in the video game. His campaign was recognized by Nintendo of America in their statement on May 9th.

“Nintendo is Committed to Fun and Entertainment for Everyone

Redmond, Wash. -- We apologize for disappointing many people by failing to include same-sex relationships in Tomodachi Life. Unfortunately, it is not possible for us to change this game’s design, and such a significant development change can’t be accomplished with a post-ship patch. At Nintendo, dedication has always meant going beyond the games to promote a sense of community, and to share a spirit of fun and joy. We are committed to advancing our longtime company values of fun and entertainment for everyone. We pledge that if we create a next installment in the Tomodachi series, we will strive to design a game-play experience from the ground up that is more inclusive, and better represents all players.

-- Nintendo of America“


Nintendo immediately drew fire from the super majority of Americans who do not want marriage redefined. Nintendo also faces some major hypocrisy. When have they provided for Christians? In fact they have demanded Christian images be removed from games (crosses taken off tombstones). They have denied licenses to companies making Christian games (remember Wisdom Tree). Nintendo has a long history of discrimination against Christians. For a decade they have been asked to include a church in Animal Crossing. They have been asked to put God in their games instead of a false goddess. Nintendo continues to fail in terms of providing for Christians.

Yet Nintendo has never bothered to apologize to Christians for all of the slights. Why is that? Why is their culture so hostile to Christians? I guess Christians are not part of the everyone they are talking about. Every single time we ask Nintendo to be inclusive of Christians they completely ignore it. Other organizations have made the same request, and Nintendo ignores them as well. Yet one radical stirs up a militant redefining group who attacks Christians and they quickly issue an apology. Talk about a major double standard.

Nintendo is completely wrong. They can not pick one side of a hot button issue and provide for both sides. Putting redefined marriage into a game is going to offend billions. So they will make a few people happy, and offend many more. Nintendo would have been much wiser in keeping silent on this issue. Because now they have opened themselves up to all kinds of problems. They have attacked traditional marriage. They are admitting they arrogantly think they know better than billions who have accepted the definition of marriage for thousands of years. Nintendo is saying they do not want money from every single person who believes in traditional marriage. Their apology slaps traditional marriage folks right in the face. How will Nintendo provide for traditional marriage folks?

World Vision recently took a stance like Nintendo and it hurt them. Chick-Fil-A took a traditional marriage stance and it helped them financially. If Nintendo cares about their business they will take note of what has happened with these two companies. One radical is not going to keep their business going over the long term. When will Nintendo issue an apology to Christians? BTW will Tomodachi Life include a church, pastor and/or priest?

Paul Bury, Family Friendly Gaming 25 Comments [4/10/2018 9:24:10 AM]
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Lucilius

So, believers in a book of fiction freak out over other forms of fiction too, demonstrating that they're totally incapable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.

4/10/2018 9:41:18 AM

Happy Atheist

So this comes from a year before same sex marriage was introduced to the entire US. Guess that 'super majority' changed their minds, eh?

4/10/2018 9:46:48 AM

KingOfRhye

Putting redefined marriage into a game is going to offend billions. So they will make a few people happy, and offend many more.


What a bunch of utter bullshit. I guess this is just classic anti-gay fundie thinking, though; they think everyone who is not gay is against same-sex marriage. A "super majority of Americans" do not want marriage "redefined"? What planet are you living on? (since it's not the same one as the rest of us, apparently) Look at the opinion polls that were done around the time of Obergefell. Super majority, my ass.

4/10/2018 9:56:45 AM

Skide

Hohohoho, so many bold faced lies, hohohoho. Seriously, what realitee does this dumb fuck inhabits?

4/10/2018 9:59:36 AM

Zinnia

While I don't know the specifics of this, Japan has been known to use religious symbolism in ways which offend some Americans, so Nintendo of America probably had a policy of removing everything to be both safe and fair. Of course, some fundies don't care about the "fair" part - Christian symbolism is fine so long as they don't personally find it offensive, symbolism of other religions is generally not.

4/10/2018 11:16:24 AM

Anon-e-moose

Chris-chan wanted Sega to stop Sonic having blarms.

You've got less fucking chance of getting Nintendo & co. to come to your way of thinking, FFS.

When they've ported the id Tech 6-based demon slaughterfest that is "DOOM IV" to the Switch, then I'm afraid that's the only accommodation to the likes of you there'll ever be. And when that has a BBFC rating of '18': and "Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus" will be similarly ported to that new console, there's Nintendo's 'Family Friendly' image shot to shit as much as a Nazi by BJ Blazkowicz in that game.

Wait till you get to the end of that, Pauliepoos: no amount of Optrex will soothe that eye-rape you'll never be able to unsee. >:D

4/10/2018 11:19:22 AM

Chloe

@Zinnia

Yeah. From what I've heard, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't give Christianity the respect these fundies thinks it deserves (meaning utter reverence).

4/10/2018 11:47:10 AM

Sammettik

IIRC, this whiny rant was the final straw that led Nintendo to blacklist FFG from receiving free review copies.

4/10/2018 11:53:21 AM

Pink Jackboots

>When have they provided for Christians?


http://cinemassacre.com/2006/12/25/bible-games/

http://cinemassacre.com/2008/12/23/bible-games-2/

http://cinemassacre.com/2011/12/07/avgn-bible-games-3/


Maybe if your games didn't make Babby Jesus cry...

4/10/2018 12:09:30 PM

Thinking Allowed

They are admitting they arrogantly think they know better than billions who have accepted the definition of marriage for thousands of years.


Paulie...you may want to reconsider this statement.

4/10/2018 12:11:04 PM

MadotsukiInTheNexus

The supermajority of Americans opposed to same-sex marriage that they refer to here? It doesn't exist. There's only one state where the majority of people polled opposed same-sex marriage, according to the Public Religion Research Institute, that state being Alabama. There, opposition is reported by a simple majority. Neighboring Mississippi has plurality opposition. Those are the only two where the majority or plurality of the population does not support its legality. Only four states experience plurality support, three of them in the extremely conservative Southeast, and the fourth being West Virginia. A supermajority in support actually does exist in a few states.

As far as the idea that Nintendo censors crosses in Western releases in order to avoid offending non-Christians is concerned, that's so wrong that it's literally the opposite of correct. Christians are a distinct minority in Japan, and so (somewhat reasonable) concern exists about the possibility of accidentally including Christian symbolism where it might be seen as frivolous or even more seriously inappropriate. Crosses are usually removed from Western releases to avoid offending Christians.

And Wisdom Tree violated so many of Nintendo's standards that there was no chance in hell.

4/10/2018 12:40:49 PM

The Crimson Ghost

Super majority? I don't think so. Now I'll be making even more of an effort to snag the NES Classic when it's re-released this summer. Nintendo ain't going anywhere, nor do they have to concern themselves with the ravings of a small group of delusional lunatics.

4/10/2018 2:32:14 PM

The Angry Dybbuk

DAESH cutting people's heads off or cartels cutting people up with chainsaws used to be considered "extremist," but apparently the word has lost all meaning in the hands of people who object to the option for a minority sexual orientation during the course of a videogame.

It's troubling that anyone would take these idiots seriously.

4/10/2018 3:39:14 PM

HotaruSobotka

Wait, your complaining 'bout an OLD game on a system that's about to be phased out. Color me suprised... NOT!

4/10/2018 4:55:35 PM



When have they provided for Christians?



Self centered entitled little bastard aren't you. There is a movie studio for you. there are video game companies specializing in Christian games.



For a decade they have been asked to include a church in Animal Crossing. They have been asked to put God in their games instead of a false goddess. Nintendo continues to fail in terms of providing for Christians.



Why do you need those things? I mean I don't see a ton of Pagan imagery in Animal Crossing and I don't see my atheist friends whining about goddesses (hell my best friend, a Jew, loved the Legend of Zelda games. When we were teens I'd watch him play Ocarina of Time and we had a blast. It never bothered him.). If Nintendo puts Christian imagery then decides it wants to include items for us Pagans, atheists, Muslims, Hindus, Native Americans you'd be screeching and crying

4/10/2018 5:15:18 PM

Zinnia

@ HotaruSobotka:

Wait, your complaining 'bout an OLD game on a system that's about to be phased out. Color me suprised... NOT!

The article is from May 2014.

4/10/2018 5:24:43 PM

Beccs

"Super majority"?

Is that the handful of whiny, pathetic arseholes who think the world should be shaped to their outdated worldview?

4/10/2018 8:51:16 PM

The Reptilian Jew

Why the fuck should a Japanese company give a single damn about what American Christians think? (I mean it's not like homophobia isn't widespread in Japan, but come on.)

4/11/2018 12:26:05 AM

mikeandike

(In fact they have demanded Christian images be removed from games (crosses taken off tombstones).)

Gee folks, I wonder why a country where Christians were persecuted between the late 1500s to the middle-late 1800s in various forms, including torture, slave labor and execution, might want to remove the image of a cross from tombstones in games being ported to Christian majority countries. Boggles the mind.

4/11/2018 5:44:46 AM

Canadiest

The short time boom at Chick-Fil-A was an organized whiny support weekend or two, hardly a desirable business model or one a Japanese company could capitalize on. It was a short term knee-jerk stunt.

And how many times have we seen "They'd be wise to cater to Christian and their industry is doomed if they displease us" only to result in record sales, box office dominance or critical raves? This pretention of majority support (" drew fire from the super majority of Americans who do not want marriage redefined.") is knowingly deceptive, the polls clearly show as much as 80% are ok with it.

4/11/2018 6:01:39 AM

creativerealms

It's not Chick-Fil-la's stance that helps them it's the quality of their food. They always had that stance. Also while the owners may have that stance since CFA is a Franchise the owners don't have to follow it and there has been at least one location that has supported marriage equality. They just can't be open on Sundays but honestly they don't need to be.

4/11/2018 6:15:15 AM

Doubting Thomas

They have denied licenses to companies making Christian games (remember Wisdom Tree).


Because Christian games like those Wisdom Tree games totally suck and Nintendo obviously doesn't want to be associated with games that suck.

Every single time we ask Nintendo to be inclusive of Christians they completely ignore it.


Well, go play your crappy Wisdom Tree games then. Or start your own Christian video game company. If there were such a demand for Christian themed games, Wisdom Tree might still be in business.

Nintendo is saying they do not want money from every single person who believes in traditional marriage.


No, you're the ones saying that. Nintendo is being open to everyone. You're the one threatening boycott.

Chick-Fil-A took a traditional marriage stance and it helped them financially.


No it didn't. Why then, did they change their stance?

4/11/2018 10:19:55 AM

Doubting Thomas

@KingOfRhye:

It's the "silent majority" which always secretly agrees with conservative Christians but never votes or otherwise ever voices their opinion in any way, shape or form. You know, like they almost don't exist.

4/11/2018 10:22:02 AM

Anon-e-moose

@Doubting Thomas

They have denied licenses to companies making Christian games (remember Wisdom Tree)

Because Christian games like those Wisdom Tree games totally suck and Nintendo obviously doesn't want to be associated with games that suck


They seem to forget one simple thing:



There's an extremely good reason why that 'Nintendo Seal of Quality' exists on games for their consoles, FFS.

And since "Eternal War: Shadows of Light", a very good reason why Bethesda Softworks - who now own id Software - refuse to allow any kind of modding of id Tech 6. Or licencing of that game engine, period.

And as "EW:SoL" - the only 'Christian' game - that was based on just id Tech 1: that used by "Quake", good luck in getting the likes of Bethesda, Activision, EA etc to distribute any more 'Christian' games: certainly any 'AAA'-level ones using anything less than id Tech 5.

Even "Daikatana" used id Tech 2 ("Quake II"): and you know how that was a failure; even before it was rendered obsolete by id coming up with the first id Tech 3-based game: "Quake III: Arena".

Unlike John Romero, FFS: Nintendo has already made you their bitch.

4/11/2018 10:37:14 AM

SpukiKitty

Here's an idea: DON'T BUY THE GAME!

Also; Games, Movies, TV Shows, etc. have ratings for a REASON!

No ones putting a gun to your head and saying "You must play Grand Theft Auto, watch Cannibal Holocaust or Game of Thrones, read Hustler and listen to NWA OR ELSE!" you idiots!

Here's an idea: You want Bible-Butt-friendly alternatives that everyone would like....SHOW SOME COMPETENCE FOR ONCE! Most of your stuff is poor quality with bad acting and super-corny! Religious Entertainment CAN be good and very well-done....Learn from the guys behind Veggietales or watch the great classic epics of Cecil B. DeMille, watch Dreamwork's early offering, The Prince of Egypt or listen to bands like Jars of Clay or Skillet. Passable faith-based media can be done but the problem is that most of your stuff is lazy, cheesy, corny, poor quality and tone-deaf at best and hateful at worst.

Trim down the most gross-out of the violence (I know what Jesus went through was pure nightmare fuel but less is more, Mel!) and The Passion of the Christ is a pretty decent film.

You want alternate media or "Moral Substitutes", then put some effort into actual quality, intelligence and widespread appeal! No one wants to watch a bargain-basement dork with crappy puppets or a former teen heart-throb lecture in smarmy fashion a bizarre "point" about how materialism in Christmas is "good".

4/13/2018 10:41:15 AM

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