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two mature and consenting adults who are of able mind and legal age to consent

In some countries gays are called fags, and treated in the same way as pedophiles (faggotry is criminally prosecuted, fags are shamed by general population). Yet, just as pedophiles, fags can't help themselves, regardless of the law and moral qualms.

forced encounter between a grown adult and a child.

I've seen CP, and, based on my "research", most ****** seem to be genuinely into it, there is nothing forced about it. Some are not. You can say that pedophiles are taking advantage of ******** , and ******** can't consent, but it is rarely forced.

I can't help but wonder how much of the damage attributed to sexual abuse is made by the good samaritans telling the ******* how "wrong" and "dirty" it was post factum.

So you are arguing that children are not forced to be in child pornography, but are in fact choosing to be? "rarely forced" - you genuinely believe this?

Yes, in most cases I observed on video, "forced" would be totally inappropriate term. The word you are looking for is "manipulated". They are genuinely excited, and they like what's going on.

30% of CP is made by ****** anyway, try your mental acrobatics to explain who's the victim here.

Children obviously do engage in sexual exploration. Which is different from being sexually abused. What I was questioning was your assertion that they genuinely enjoy being raped on camera, in many cases by a parent. There is a lot of testimony to be found on the internet, from victims of sexual abuse, describing how their abusers threatened and beat them into acting as if they enjoyed themselves on camera. I've included only one of many articles:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/27/magazine/how-much-can-restitution-help-victims-of-child-pornography.html

I'll ask you again: do you really believe that these raped and violated children were enjoying themselves? You don't have to be honest with me, but be honest with yourself - if you can.

Nobody enjoys getting raped, on camera or not. ****** that get raped don't enjoy it. On the other hand, some 5 y.o. giving a head to her dad often enjoys it. Think (I know, it's hard for you, but try it for once), why wouldn't she? She loves her dad, she spends time with her dad, they play fun games, and nobody told her that it is bad yet. For her, sucking his dick is no different from scratching his back. She sees that her dad enjoys it, and it makes her enjoy it too.

I don't say it's good, I don't say it will not damage her in the future, I'm just stating the facts. The facts don't give a fuck about how you feel about them, they just are
I can see bad acting from a mile away - in adults. I can detect when most adults are lying, or scared.

You implying that I can't see when a ***** is pretending (which I've seen in some videos - ****** scared and acting for camera), and when he genuinely likes what's going on is just laughable.

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