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A "conspiracy" is defined at "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful." The opposition to cold fusion has always been public. It is published in the leading journals, and headed up by plasma fusion researchers, the DoE, Scientific American and other mainstream organizations. They do not hide their activity. On the contrary, they brag about how they destroyed the research and fired the researchers.

Conspiracy is sometimes defined as an "organized" action. The opposition to cold fusion is not organized as far as I know. So it is not a conspiracy. It is academic politics, which are rampant in all fields of academia.

You have to understand that compared to other professions such as programming or engineering, ethical standards in academia are in the gutter. I have worked with many different kinds of people in my life, in the U.S. and in Japan. I have only encountered one group more corrupt than academic scientists: the mafia members who ran Las Vegas hotels where I used to install computer equipment.

In academic politics, anything goes. Tactics such as character assassination, threats of deportation, pulling strings to cut funding or cancel meetings, using the government to harass opponents and demand personal correspondence and tax returns, stealing ideas during peer-review, publishing fake data, and sabotaging experiments are widespread in academia. They are as common as fleas on an alley cat. I assume Robert Park and others were so quick to accuse Fleischmann and Pons of being frauds and criminals because they know that such people are common in academia.

JedRothwell, LENR-Forum 4 Comments [12/6/2017 2:11:27 AM]
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You start with a true statement, that there is nothing conspiratorial in the opposition to the idea of cold fusion. It is based on scientific experimentation and facts. Now you've slandered academia in general - but WITHOUT providing any evidence, any facts. You decry "character assassination", then proceed to do just that against an entire field.

Fleischmann and Pons tried to do something that should not be possible within the known laws of physics. Of course there is going to be immediate pushback. Nothing surprising about that.

12/6/2017 9:05:45 AM


I have to wonder about how many corrupt academics this guy has met. And I wonder that because of the claim of meeting corrupt mafiosos at the casinos.

The casinos are (allegedly) the legal front for the criminal organizations. As such, most of their operations are NOT going to be terribly corrupt, or illegal. The books will have to balance for any audit, so most of their employees will be doing legal jobs in a legal manner.

How would someone brought in as a LAN technician identify a corrupt mafia member on such a job? It's not like there are hitmen in double breasted suits set up for the tourists to take picture of, like the guards at the Tower of London.

I suspect that Jed hasn't really got all that much experience with the unsavory types that he goes on and on about.

But, yea, opposition to cold fusion is definitely stacked against the believers. They underhandedly ask for a repeatable experiment and actually try to repeat it.Rotten bastards...

12/6/2017 11:00:50 AM


Oh this is such bullshit, no group of individuals is perfect of course, but the mast majority of scientists do not screw around when it comes to anything that may interfere with experimentation, the collection of the results, or the reporting of those results. Few things will absolutely destroy a scientists reputation and mean that they can no longer get a job anyywhere reputable like plagarism or reporting false results. You dont get second chances for that stuff.

12/6/2017 7:14:23 PM

Pharaoh Bastethotep

Cui bono? Why would we prevent problems that threaten us all from being solved?
And no, even "Big Energy" does not make sense because (at least in Germany), all the great energy corporations work with all sources.

12/7/2017 5:34:44 AM

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