Surrender is a key ingredient in femininity
While reading my Woman's Study Bible I read the following topical note:
"Surrender is a key ingredient in femininity. As a bride, a woman in marriage surrenders her independence, her name, her destiny, her will, and ultimately, in the marriage chamber, her body, to the bride groom. As a mother, she surrenders in a very real sense her life for the life of the child. As a single woman, she surrenders herself in a unique way for service to her Lord and for service to family and community.
Femininity receives. It takes what God gives. In other words, women are to receive the given as MAry did ( Luke 1:38), not to insist upon the not-given, as Eve did ( Gen. 3:1-6).
The challenge of biblical femininity for you is to be a woman, holy through and through, asking for nothing but what God wants to give you, receiving with both hands and with all your heart whatever that is."
Your thoughts???
I find surrendering to be extremely hard having grown up in a era that promoted the idea that women should strive to be equal and that our needs were more important than the needs of others. In my soul I know that unselfish giving ,even unto death, is what God requires of me and every woman but my sinful nature like Eve's wants things that God has chosen to not give me . We always want that which we don't have, the grass is always greener etc.....
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Was this written by a woman?
What the hell is a woman doing a man's work for? Get back in that kitchen and make me a pot-pie!
So, god wants us to have a wife that is pretty much an automaton? Stepford? I'd much rather have a woman who has a backbone and her own brain, thanks anyway.
So was Dorothy evil because she didn't surrender to the witch? ~surrender dorothy~
Boy, twisted fucks really get my undies in a bunch. I can't believe the world is not more fucked up then it already is. The fact that the bible has mutated people into such snarling, hate-filled beasts of self-righteousness only solidifies my stance against it.
@Dante's Vigil: Well, according to Catholic doctrine, Mary was free from original sin, and unlike Eve stayed that way.
Apparently, not only is a woman's place in the home, but it's as the doormat of the home.
I don't imagine that there has been a teenage boy who hasn't dreamed of a completely submissive woman, but I think most of us males grew up to realize that a totally submissive partner is unfulfilling. Most? Many? Well, some at least.
It really wouldn't be such a bad thing if all fundamentalist families adopted this kind of family structure. They would permanently be on the lower rungs of the economic scale (only the man would work, plus all those children to feed), their children would stay out of the public school system, the women would never vote (cutting the fundie vote by half at least), and so on.
The rest of us would actually be better off for it.
Oh. My. God.
Not. Not in a million years. Not. No no no!
If you want to objectifize yourself this way, ,please do, but next time you see a prostitute, don't even DARE think anything else of her but equal to you. Because that's what you are. An object. Something to be paid for. Something people on the village paid for till 50 years ago. They'd pay for the bride. They'd pay for another working hands and a baby machine.
God, you disgust me!
It's tragically heartwrenching to read stuff like this, to see someone wrestling to suppress their instinct to question or doubt for the sake of conformity. Ask yourself, is it really what you feel "in your soul", or just what people have told you you should feel in your soul? There's a lot of difference.
So if God chooses to give me the smarts, the ability, and the will to be President of the US, am I not impeding God's will by refusing to use my talents thusly?
Oh, so when I'm asking for people to not treat me as a lesser, what I'm ACTUALLY saying is that I'm more important than everyone else. Gotcha.
You go ahead and surrender your life, body and soul to a man that doesn't respect it. I'm going to be over here with a man that thinks he's lucky to have me and writing novels.
"I find surrendering to be extremely hard having grown up in a era that promoted the idea that women should strive to be equal..."
*Sigh* And it almost rubbed off on her. It's lucky she's a good little fundie, or she might have gotten over-ambitious and actually wanted to control her own life or something.
I did try that once, actually.
Having dinner in a bar with one ex-girlfriend, she doesn't know what to ask for and keeps saying whatever I want is good for her. I ask her if she'd like one kind of fried potatoes, and she says yes. After, in the middle of dinner, I notice she didn't eat a single potatoe (there were 3 more dishes to eat) and ask her if there's anything wrong. Then she tells me she didn't like that, and she didn't said so because if I wanted that, I should have it. All that after me asking her, I even didn't want that dish in the first place!
I ended hating that part of her character. I want a girl that can take decisions on her own, even if I don't like them. Everyone should.
Say what you will, lady, but when I grow up, I want a woman with self-respect and a mind of her own, not a Stepford Wife. The Bible says women must submit to their husband, because he is the head of the household. Female chauvinist pigs (a term used for women who believe they are inferior to men) take that line and twist it into saying women are objects created by God for the enjoyment of a man. You and your pathetic, miserable, desperate, desperate, desperate, desperate, desperate, desperate life remind me of that Wife Swap episode where the woman was clipping her husband's toenails and ranting about how a woman should never have her husband give her breakfast in bed and that the husband should be pampered and spoiled like a king. Women are people too, not just mindless creatures created to be perfect tools of our entertainment. Get over your husband, slut.
Surrender is a key ingredient in femininity
I checked my cookbook. There's some crap about sugar, and spice, and everything nice, but absolutely nothing about surrender!
Oh man, I wish people would stop trying to dress up their kinks with religion. So she wants to have her arse slapped and get a good hard fuck every now and then. Feminism doesn't condemn that, rather it ensures that those who want to call their husband "master" and wear a rather fetching set of ankle and wrist cuffs have as much right to do so as I have to, say, run for office.
Give in to it, baby! And should you ever take a liking to the ladies... well, we'll chat.
/I find surrendering to be extremely hard having grown up in a era that promoted the idea that women should strive to be equal and that our needs were more important than the needs of others/
I find it exasperating and depressing that some women still believe that they are inferior to men, even after having grown up in an era and civilization that promotes the idea that women should strive to be equal, and that their needs are just as important as the needs of their husbands.
Honestly, as Xians, shouldn't men be doing almost all of the same things (i.e., surrendering their lives for those of their kids', caring about others, waiting on God)? How is this really specific to women? Oh, it's not, except that because we have hoo-hahs, we're supposed to receive.
If you surrender and become a doormat, in which sense are you "serving the lord"?. To serve somebody, you need independence of thought, resources and autonomy. I don´t see many animals, prisoners of war or quitters being considered better Christians.
If you surrender and leave your actions and responsablilities in the hands of others, in which sense are you "serving the Lord"?. The very free will you need to act upon the Lord is in the rubbish, have you thought that?
"a woman in marriage surrenders her independence, her name, her destiny, her will,"
Uh. Yeah. My mother would like to have a word with you. She is totally independent, she controls her own destiny, she has free will, and SHE'S NOT CHANGED TO MY DAD'S NAME. Heck, I've got her name, and my dad is considering changing his to hers!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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