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Surrender is a key ingredient in femininity
While reading my Woman's Study Bible I read the following topical note:

"Surrender is a key ingredient in femininity. As a bride, a woman in marriage surrenders her independence, her name, her destiny, her will, and ultimately, in the marriage chamber, her body, to the bride groom. As a mother, she surrenders in a very real sense her life for the life of the child. As a single woman, she surrenders herself in a unique way for service to her Lord and for service to family and community.
Femininity receives. It takes what God gives. In other words, women are to receive the given as MAry did ( Luke 1:38), not to insist upon the not-given, as Eve did ( Gen. 3:1-6).
The challenge of biblical femininity for you is to be a woman, holy through and through, asking for nothing but what God wants to give you, receiving with both hands and with all your heart whatever that is."

Your thoughts???

I find surrendering to be extremely hard having grown up in a era that promoted the idea that women should strive to be equal and that our needs were more important than the needs of others. In my soul I know that unselfish giving ,even unto death, is what God requires of me and every woman but my sinful nature like Eve's wants things that God has chosen to not give me . We always want that which we don't have, the grass is always greener etc.....

ShoutTotheLord, Rapture Ready 55 Comments [7/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Wait. So it's sinful for women to not sacrafice but not for men? Double standards for the win.

So... stockholm syndrom anyone?

7/12/2006 11:52:03 AM

Jacob Syne

Yeah, go ahead, shout it all out.

All of the stupid.

7/12/2006 11:58:34 AM


Was this written by a woman?

What the hell is a woman doing a man's work for? Get back in that kitchen and make me a pot-pie!

So, god wants us to have a wife that is pretty much an automaton? Stepford? I'd much rather have a woman who has a backbone and her own brain, thanks anyway.

So was Dorothy evil because she didn't surrender to the witch? ~surrender dorothy~

Boy, twisted fucks really get my undies in a bunch. I can't believe the world is not more fucked up then it already is. The fact that the bible has mutated people into such snarling, hate-filled beasts of self-righteousness only solidifies my stance against it.

7/12/2006 12:18:56 PM


At least she is on the right track by doubting the things she was \"learned\" by her religion.

And why is she sinful because Eve was? Even if she takes the bible literally, that was 6000 years ago.

7/12/2006 12:27:02 PM


I surrender, I surrender - now fuck me like you hate me!

7/12/2006 1:04:36 PM

The Last Conformist

Sorry, Julian, but I don't swing that way.

7/12/2006 1:11:31 PM


Sounds like the woman's study bible was written by a bunch of controlling chauvinist assholes. I wonder if the men's study bible has pointers on wife-beating.

Religion makes me sad... and angry.

7/12/2006 1:30:07 PM


Grow a spine.

7/12/2006 1:39:12 PM


It's all been said already. Have fun when you listen to said advice. I for one, want to do things.

7/12/2006 1:46:01 PM

Dante's Virgil

OK, you surrender already. Now move out of the way and let the grown women get some work done.

In other words, women are to receive the given as MAry did ( Luke 1:38), not to insist upon the not-given, as Eve did ( Gen. 3:1-6).

And yet Eve was perfect and Mary was not...so wouldn't the \"perfect\" reaction be to insist upon the not-given? Eve didn't have a \"sinful\" nature--she was made perfect, remember? She's the First Feminist in the Original Patriarchy.

7/12/2006 2:25:26 PM


\"She's the First Feminist in the Original Patriarchy\"

~ TDR stands up and applauds ~

7/12/2006 2:28:26 PM

The Last Conformist

@Dante's Vigil: Well, according to Catholic doctrine, Mary was free from original sin, and unlike Eve stayed that way.

7/12/2006 2:45:42 PM


Apparently, not only is a woman's place in the home, but it's as the doormat of the home.

I don't imagine that there has been a teenage boy who hasn't dreamed of a completely submissive woman, but I think most of us males grew up to realize that a totally submissive partner is unfulfilling. Most? Many? Well, some at least.

7/12/2006 3:23:07 PM


Thank you S T T L for reminding me why I'm a godless lesbian, and remember A woman's place is in the house.....or the senate.....maybe the Oval Office

7/12/2006 3:36:06 PM


It really wouldn't be such a bad thing if all fundamentalist families adopted this kind of family structure. They would permanently be on the lower rungs of the economic scale (only the man would work, plus all those children to feed), their children would stay out of the public school system, the women would never vote (cutting the fundie vote by half at least), and so on.

The rest of us would actually be better off for it.

7/12/2006 4:02:17 PM


Marching proudly into the sixteenth century, it's ShoutTotheLord!

7/12/2006 4:27:52 PM

Lya Kahlo

SO, god created women to be doormats? Then why did he create actual doormats?

7/12/2006 5:02:22 PM


Oh. My. God.

Not. Not in a million years. Not. No no no!

If you want to objectifize yourself this way, ,please do, but next time you see a prostitute, don't even DARE think anything else of her but equal to you. Because that's what you are. An object. Something to be paid for. Something people on the village paid for till 50 years ago. They'd pay for the bride. They'd pay for another working hands and a baby machine.

God, you disgust me!

7/12/2006 5:53:49 PM


It's tragically heartwrenching to read stuff like this, to see someone wrestling to suppress their instinct to question or doubt for the sake of conformity. Ask yourself, is it really what you feel \"in your soul\", or just what people have told you you should feel in your soul? There's a lot of difference.

7/12/2006 6:05:25 PM


So if God chooses to give me the smarts, the ability, and the will to be President of the US, am I not impeding God's will by refusing to use my talents thusly?

7/12/2006 6:59:07 PM


Do we need more examples that the Bible was written by patriarchal chauvinistic goat-herding retards with a domination agenda?
I don't.

7/12/2006 7:22:06 PM


Oh, so when I'm asking for people to not treat me as a lesser, what I'm ACTUALLY saying is that I'm more important than everyone else. Gotcha.

You go ahead and surrender your life, body and soul to a man that doesn't respect it. I'm going to be over here with a man that thinks he's lucky to have me and writing novels.

7/12/2006 7:55:35 PM

b. beau brinker

how about a \"Welcome to Stepford\" award?

7/12/2006 8:16:12 PM

Napoleon the Clown

I will never marry a woman as you describe.

7/12/2006 9:16:58 PM


\"I find surrendering to be extremely hard having grown up in a era that promoted the idea that women should strive to be equal...\"

*Sigh* And it almost rubbed off on her. It's lucky she's a good little fundie, or she might have gotten over-ambitious and actually wanted to control her own life or something.

7/12/2006 10:31:14 PM

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