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"Yes, you have to swallow our particular line of bull to become a free-thinker", part eleventy-two. You're confusing the mechanisms of the brain with the thoughts of which that brain is capable. That's like asking how to get to Broadview Road and being told in reply how an internal combustion engine works.
"There's no such thing as free will. You can only be a 'free thinker' if you're a created being."
But, if The Creator is all-knowing, knows *ahead of time* what you will choose in any given situation, there's ALSO no such thing as free will.
Yeah, forth panel; Most disconnected drivel I've ever read. And I've been visiting this site for years.
Even animals do mental calculations based on learned experiences in reality, every thinking creature has expectation based on everyday reality.
And really, a theist, let's face it a Christian dedicated to myth is giving someone a lecture on free will and independent thought?
A "flesh robot"?
Full on hypocrite, blind faith parrots.
You can only be a freethinker if someone has shaped your brain in the form HE wanted (and who later killed almost every living thing on Earth because humans thought freely, as he knew they would), not if your mind developed and adapted to function (i.e. keep you alive) with a changing environment.
Yeah, that makes sense!
No wait, it doesn't.
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Why can't you accept that Princess Celestia is your God, Adam Fnord...?! [/Teach the Controversy]
...and if you can't, then that's where your entire argument - in 'Strawman' cartoon form - falls apart. So much for being Open Minded, eh fundies...?!
As they say, we have no choice but to believe in free will.
That's not what "freethinker" means anyway. It means that you don't specifically follow any established doctrines or philosophies. True "freethinkers" in regards to religion are usually (but not always) agnostics.
This inane comic strip here is nonetheless interesting to me, because I don't believe that free will exists myself.
That said however, it would be completely impossible for anyone, regardless of cognitive ability/ psychological understanding to ever accurately predict human behavior. Take two people with the same background and ideals, put them through the same experience, and they can walk away with completely different outlooks on it.
Hence, freedom of will is meta-narrative, in the sense that whether we can prove it exists or not, it is still useful to us as a legal and philosophical concept in which to frame discussions of human dignity and rights, as well as ideas of justice, law and order.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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