Ezra #fundie disqus.com

(on same sex marriage)

Ezra:
Actually Colin they are "forcing" us to listen an affirm their evil deeds OR ELSE they will mock, revile or (if they could) kill us because we tell them the truth and they hate the truth.
Do you have a dog in the race?

Colin Rafferty:
Kill you, really?
Maybe you believe that you are required to affirm or deny a couple's marriage. You always have the third choice, which is to ignore it, because it doesn't actually involve you.
But if your beef is that you are being mocked and reviled, maybe you ought to think about why.

Ezra:
Did you fail to note the parentheses, lol. It is the institution that should be affirmed (for myriad reasons) and the institution has since its dawn been the joining in body, mind, spirit and in law between a man and a woman (a good case may be made that another institution is "friendship" between two men or two women even, but that institution is not marriage).

Oh my, there is so much you fail to understand- Christians consider it a blessing to be mocked, reviled, hated, abused and even killed. Our Lord was treated thusly and we ought not to think ourselves better than he. But the goal is to save the unwitting from eternal death - that is the love that the world eschews in favor of its own lusts.

Colin Rafferty:
Really, you don't have to say anything when two consenting adults do something that you would choose not to do. No one is looking for your affirmation, I promise you that. All anyone is really looking for is for people to not butt their noses in other people's private lives.
And please spare me the BS about the historical sanctity of marriage. Historically, it's about paying someone to take your daughter off your hands, or forging bonds between two powerful families.
But really, right now, there are two very different concepts of marriage: the religious one, which gets to be defined by whatever religion you follow; and the legal one, which defines who gets to have legal benefits of being married. And that second one demands it give equal protection to all people.

Ezra:
You are so naive Colin. You are right I can forego the opportunity to state the life-saving truth, but then I would be called to account by a higher authority than Man on Judgment Day (i.e. Why did you not throw the life preserver to those drowning men, Ezra?)
And I promise YOU that indeed they are looking for affirmation. Do you think that if they were not looking for it and for people to "butt their noses into their private lives", as you so quaintly put it, that they would have put it onto the social net. Puhleeze, do not think we rolled off the potato wagon this morning. It appears from context that they are reveling in their new-found notoriety.
The two reasons you gave (though perhaps jaded) are certainly valid in some societies - but there are far more. And it is a falsehood to claim that marriage is just religious - most pre-religious social orders observed it. And legal benefits came about for a very good reason that I'll bet you were not taught in school.

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