Quote# 126494

Fun Fact: The Best of People will Fight Them.

Another sign of the Khawarij. The best of people will fight them.

Let’s recap real quick, one side you have:

Every western country, every gulf country, every Arab country, and Israel. (Who btw have done nothing for any Muslims suffering since their cursed inception…but were quick to mobilize their fighter jets when The Khilafah was formed.)

In the other corner, you have:

Brothers and Sisters like you and me (who are far better then you and I, but just for the sake of this post) who made Hijrah, gave up everything for the sake of Allah swt, are fighting in the path of Allah swt, who don’t fear the blame of the blamer, stern and harsh with the disbelievers, and gentle with the believers.

Which one you think is going to be the camp of “best of people”? A Group with America, Iran, Russia, and Israel? Or a group who strives and established the Khilafah?

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Prager

So, the best of people burn other muslims alive, stone other muslims to death, behead other muslims, throw other muslims off buildings, hide behind other muslims when facing danger, etc.? QR has an interesting definition of best.

4/20/2017 3:29:40 AM



Probably the west. I mean the west has its faults but at least try to better themselves

4/20/2017 3:40:16 AM

Indicible

You mean a group that stones people for something they do in their bedroom, lights people on fire, makes sexslaves of women they capture and kills masses of people of their own religion for not being exactly as observant as the group thinks they should be?
Yes, we are the better ones. We f*ck up, but at least we feel bad about it.

4/20/2017 4:19:52 AM

Mister Spak

"Another sign of the Khawarij. The best of people will fight them. "

What about the antichrist? Will he fight him?

4/20/2017 4:48:59 AM

Frogflayer

Which one you think is going to be the camp of “best of people”?

The best of people will fight them.


Kinda answered his own question - or did I miss something.

4/20/2017 7:11:59 AM

NeoMatrix

Oh just blow yourself up already.

4/20/2017 7:20:26 AM

Swede

We know how "well" it went for the group that strove to establish the Third Reich. The Best People were indeed fighting them.

Sorry for the Godwin, but at the level Daesh are aiming at, there are few others to compare them with...

4/20/2017 8:18:44 AM

Vman

Swede> Oh, don't worry. I think ISIL have long since reached the point where we can compare their evilness with that of the Nazis.

4/20/2017 9:07:09 AM



It is really unfortunate when these kind of quotes are listed here. In the current Western political climate with fascists in power and Islamophobic attitudes becoming frighteningly mainstream these things help to normalize the bigoted belief that "All Muslims support the terrorists." This quote is so stereotypical that I don't think it even is a Muslim but an alt-righter pretending to be one. It's like if a pro-choicer was quoted about how they love to sacrifice babies to Satan every two weeks. No way in hell is this real.

4/20/2017 11:31:12 AM

Shepard Solus

@#2044560
It is really unfortunate when these kind of quotes are listed here.

No, what's unfortunate is that these people exist.

In the current Western political climate with fascists in power and Islamophobic attitudes becoming frighteningly mainstream these things help to normalize the bigoted belief that "All Muslims support the terrorists."

Irrelevant. This site is an archive of crazy fundamentalist quotes. This is a crazy fundamentalist quote. There are no protected classes; religious/atheist, political, social, sexual, fandom and anything else are accepted.

This quote is so stereotypical that I don't think it even is a Muslim but an alt-righter pretending to be one. It's like if a pro-choicer was quoted about how they love to sacrifice babies to Satan every two weeks. No way in hell is this real.

Ah. So that's the problem. You're a newcomer. Afraid this shit is neither fake nor new, as a look through the archives will show. Just the stuff from Middle Eastern news sites, alone, will quickly disabuse you of that faith in the existence of a bottom to the barrel of religion (or politics, for that matter). And even if this one were fake, there's so much worse that comes direct from major imams and other public figures of influence that this is frankly almost harmless by comparison.

There's no such thing as "too stereotypical to be real". Embrace the misanthropy; only then will you be able to truly appreciate the hope spots.

4/20/2017 12:08:51 PM



@Shepard Solus

This is a crazy fundamentalist quote. There are no protected classes; religious/atheist, political, social, sexual, fandom and anything else are accepted.


In your opinion there may be no "protected classes" but, personally, I don't submit quotes from Muslims as I do not think there is any comedy to be gained from punching down. Being that I'm a westerner, I don't not believe it is morally right for me to criticize Muslim religion, society or culture.

Ah. So that's the problem. You're a newcomer.


Not exactly a newcomer, I've been perusing this site for over a decade, through the reigns of four different admins, although I never have used a username.

Afraid this shit is neither fake nor new, as a look through the archives will show.


Yes it could be real, but seeing as it is written almost as a parody of what right-wingers believe about Muslims, I really doubt it.

And even if this one were fake, there's so much worse that comes direct from major imams and other public figures of influence that this is frankly almost harmless by comparison.


Nope. Mainstream imams all oppose terrorist groups such as DAESH and al-Qaeda.

4/20/2017 12:35:53 PM

Vman

@#2044601:
@Shepard Solus:
This is a crazy fundamentalist quote. There are no protected classes; religious/atheist, political, social, sexual, fandom and anything else are accepted.

In your opinion there may be no "protected classes" but, personally, I don't submit quotes from Muslims as I do not think there is any comedy to be gained from punching down. Being that I'm a westerner, I don't not believe it is morally right for me to criticize Muslim religion, society or culture.


I find your view to be objectionable on several fronts; indeed, this train of thought is even downright dangerous. Please bear with me and I'll explain why.

Firstly, your perspective is West-centric. You may feel like it is 'punching down' there, but there are many other regions where Muslims are very much in the majority and certainly no underdog. Regions where other religions (or denominations of Islam) are often oppressed by the Muslim majority, in fact.
While most people on FSTDT are apparently from the West, there are others from all over the world. Our perspective is universal - we cover all of Earth, admittedly with the caveat that quotes have to be submitted in the English language so that we can understand them. But they can come from anywhere - including, say, Raqqa or Riyadh. I think you can figure out why I used those places as an example.

Secondly, your blanket refusal to criticize Muslims is dangerous - primarily for Muslims. This is exactly the sort of thing that plays into the hand of the far right and islamophobes in general, who claim that liberals refuse to criticize Muslims even when they obviously do horrible things.
Furthermore, by refusing to say anything critical of Muslims in general you fall into the same trap that the aforementioned islamophobes do: you conflate radical fundamentalist Muslims with the peaceful, mainstream ones.
People on this site are generally perfectly capable of distinguishing between the two (the exceptions, like NeoMatrix, get mocked and quoted regularly). The fact that many in the larger public aren't doesn't mean that the way to protect Muslims is through enforced silence. On the contrary, we too should condemn the radicals loudly and clearly, while emphasizing that they do not represent the larger Muslim community.

Transparency and open discussion, with criticism where necessary - those are the key to moving forward. The Muslim community needs to maintain a clear separation from the radicals, and we should help them with that by doing the same. Any sort of obfuscation is bound to fail and to reinforce the far right's suspicions that Muslims in general lack honesty and approve of the terrorists.

@#2044601:
Being that I'm a westerner, I don't not believe it is morally right for me to criticize Muslim religion, society or culture.


On the contrary - I would say that it is as much our right as it is theirs to criticize ours... and I believe they have that right. That said, it's not much use speaking of a single Muslim religion, society and culture; Muslims have a kaleidoscope of variations in all three of those. What we here criticize isn't Muslim religion, society or culture in general - rather it is very specific aspects of it, aspects typically shared only by a (small) minority of Muslims.

No culture is perfect and without reproach. And certainly no religion. If our criticism is honest and precise, moderates will no doubt realize that and accept our perspective as a legitimate view, even if they disagree with it. Same as we would respond to theirs.

I live in Croatia, a country that emerged from the former Yugoslavia. In Yugoslavia, we had plenty of taboo topics. Things you couldn't speak of, history that had to be forgotten 'for the sake of ethnic harmony'. That was a major part of what killed Yugoslavia. Rather than ensuring peace, it was a cause for war. Don't repeat our mistakes - learn from us.

If we enforce a state of silence on everything negative associated with Islam, it might work for a while. Sure, the media might keep quiet. But people would talk. Theories would be spun and, unburdened by public scrutiny, would keep ballooning into wild tales and alleged conspiracies. The end result? Muslims in the West wouldn't be protected, they would be slaughtered. And you wouldn't see it coming until it is too late.

Don't stay silent - speak louder. Speak of the good and the bad, of the convenient and the inconvenient. Only that way will people trust you and you can make a difference for the better.

@#2044601:
@Shepard Solus:
Afraid this shit is neither fake nor new, as a look through the archives will show.

Yes it could be real, but seeing as it is written almost as a parody of what right-wingers believe about Muslims, I really doubt it.


Shows your lack of exposure to Muslim fundies, I'm afraid. This is very much the way some of them speak. Particularly ISILites.

@#2044601:
@Shepard Solus:
And even if this one were fake, there's so much worse that comes direct from major imams and other public figures of influence that this is frankly almost harmless by comparison.


Nope. Mainstream imams all oppose terrorist groups such as DAESH and al-Qaeda.


Again, shows your narrow Western focus. Yes, perhaps mainstream imams in the West oppose such groups, but in the Middle East? In Pakistan?
Not to mention that there are many groups other than the two you mentioned. While Daesh and al-Qaeda might come closest to being universally condemned by mainstream religious leaders (though what constitutes 'mainstream' is itself unclear), there are other very much reprehensible groups that are very much supported in certain communities. The Taliban. Hamas. Hezbollah. And those are just the most well-known ones.

4/20/2017 2:06:22 PM

Shepard Solus

@The Nameless One:
I do not think there is any comedy to be gained from punching down.

Oh, so they can blow up but I can't punch down? That hardly seems fair.

@Vman
Jokes aside, I think our mysterious stranger may actually be a parody. Especially if we use their stated line of logic. They might as well have just entered "Tumblr" into the name field.

4/20/2017 4:41:02 PM

Vman

@Shepaard Solus

That may be so... but Poe's law runs both ways. There really are people with views crazy enough they can easily be mistaken for parody.
I judged this person's post has a good chance of being serious, so decided to reply.

4/21/2017 7:24:54 AM

Mister Spak

@2044601

" Mainstream imams all oppose terrorist groups such as DAESH and al-Qaeda."

Western imams all oppose terrorist groups like DAESH etc. for PR reasons. In muslim countries they are a lot more DAESH-like. It could be said they are the mainstream since they have no need to stay on the legal side of infidel laws and sensibilities to avoid legal inconveniences.

4/21/2017 8:33:29 AM



"Being that I'm a westerner, I don't not believe it is morally right for me to criticize Muslim religion, society or culture. "


I'm westerner myself. I have to disagree here. While their culture is very different and I try to be culturally sensitive, I do find many practices done in Islamic theocracies quite barbaric. I do not focus on Islam though I find Christianity to be so, many Pagan faiths can be and while it isn't a religion I could even criticize some atheists too. I myself criticize not out of spite. It is because I want to see some change there. Granted my ranting on FSTDT won't make the change but if it can help plant seeds of doubt in their more archaiac and barbaric practices I am all for it. And to be fair I am a Pagan myself and find many Pagan faiths should be criticized. I can almost guarantee you there are moderate Muslims who might find reasons to criticize Islam.

4/21/2017 8:54:07 AM

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