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Episode IV: A New Boogaloo

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Skide

@Spuki

Okay, how about THAT as a latin phrase?

"Talis est pulchritudo in Caelum, ut nos relinquere Cerebro ante Portas." Translation with emphasis on the essence rather form. ;)

4/18/2017 12:51:08 PM



It depends on how you define 'founded.' FSTDT was originally called "Christians say the darndest things!" (blech, I know). That started around 2001. It became "Fundies say the darndest things!" some time after that. Give me a little bit, and I can give you at least a ballpark figure. I'll update it when I have one. No later than 2005. There was some time between then when it was down / didn't exist. It's also when FSTDT assumed roughly the form it is in now. (Wow. Even RSTDT was "coming soon!" then, just like SSTDT was, not even a month ago...) Either way, I would much prefer you use that latter date, for reasons that should be obvious to you!


As I may be the last person on this site who is still here from the days of WinAce I should probably clarify the history a bit.

The original FStDT was not actually its own site but part of WinAce's personal website/blog "The Wonderful World of WinAce" located at users.rcn.com/rostmd/winace/index.htm. WinAce stopped updating FStDT at the end of August 2004. The fstdt.com domain did not exist until May 2005 when Yahweh became admin.

I discovered the site in September 2003 and by then it was already called Fundies Say the Darndest Things.

[Edit]

The Wayback Machine shows it called Fundies Say the Darndest Things in June 2003:

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20030608203807/http://users.rcn.com/rostmd/winace/index.htm

It was last Christians Say the Darndest Things in February 2003:

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20030212203136/http://users.rcn.com/rostmd/winace/index.htm

I really like the new logo but I think the date should be changed to 2003 as that is when WinAce renamed it, please?

4/18/2017 1:20:31 PM

SpukiKitty

Revised logo on the previous page.

But I'll change the 5 to a 3. That's easy!....

....Here ya go!

THE REFERENCES.....
* Taylor Swift wearing pants (David J. Stewart).
* "The Atomic Flamethrowing Vagina" (A geeky, sparkly Jewish-stereotype screenwriter's made-up B-movie idea in a bigoted A. Wyatt Mann cartoon 'decrying the media').
* Flaming Demon NyQuil (Dreams of Dunamis and her 'Angelic Visions' brought on by NyQuil).
* Flying Winged Penis (usachinanukewar's weird sexual fantasy involving Jesus, The Apocalypse and riding a flying penis).
* Demonic Sleestak In Space-Muumuu (Joe Eigo's screed on 'Royal Horned Reptilians').
* Flying Saucers (....piloted by devils....a common bit of silliness from frums since the very idea of extraterrestrial life in the universe goes against their very worldview. Thus; Space 'Aliens are devils in disguise'.).
* The Bathtub with McDonald's-eating Sea Monsters (The infamous 'Bathtub Leviathon' [sic] entry. A real classic! Top of the 'Top 250' Quotes! The scene described started with a night out at McDonald's).

@ Skide
THAT I CAN DO!....



....PICK YOUR POISON FOLKS!

4/18/2017 1:29:34 PM



@SpukiKitty

Wow, that was quick. Thanks!

4/18/2017 2:17:59 PM

SpukiKitty

You're welcome.

4/18/2017 2:37:51 PM



My choice is Number 1. (the one without the Latin motto)

4/18/2017 2:43:41 PM

SpukiKitty

WE SHOULD PUT THIS TO A VOTE!

SHY; PLEASE START SOME SORT OF VOTE THINGY! THANX!

THE LATIN MOTTO READS....
"That's the beauty of Heaven, we can leave our brains behind!" (A classic quote that sums up this site's frums).

4/18/2017 2:48:36 PM

shy

@2043755: Thank you so much for the info. I didn't know the old WinAce URL, so I couldn't search the WayBack machine for it as a reference. The first comment in the database that contains "FSTDT" dates back to early 2005. There's a noticeable gap in the archives right before that, and it's also about the same time fstdt.com appears on the WayBack Machine. That was enough evidence to satisfy me, so I figured 2005 was most likely about right. I'm glad for the correction, though! Getting the year right is probably the only damn part of the image I'm taking the least bit seriously.

@SpukiKitty: omg LOL I love it even mmore!! I'll have it up sometime later tonight or tomorrow. We need to stop here, though, and start removing things before adding more. It's on the threshold of starting to look like it's trying too hard. But maybe now it should be blatantly obvious that this emblem is intended to be cheesy, tacky, over-the-top, and like the person who made it shouldn't be allowed on a computer unsupervised. The fact that it's campy and gaudy as all fuck is what makes it so funny to me.

Like, I understand those objections to it, totally. Yes, it's hideous and ridiculous as all get out, but the people who don't like it for that reason don't seem to fully realize just how much even the bad graphic design itself is intentionally a part of it just as much as the rest of it. I don't know why, but not fully "getting it" in that sense is just grating my nerves for some reason.

It's perfectly ok if you still strongly object to the emblem because it's ugly and gaudy as all fuck, or you can't stand the graphic design, and you think it being an eyesore outweighs the humor. Or you might not even find it humorous at all, and that's perfectly okay too — I find things that are thoroughly silly, kitschy, and absurd to be absolutely hilarious. But I also think it's my sense of humor that's weird and not very funny to most people, and that's what's making me take getting feedback on it as seriously as I am. The reaction seems pretty mixed right now. I'll give it a few more days and do an actual tally of how many people liked it and how many didn't or were "meh" about it. If the latter outweighs the former I'll gladly take it down.

at all

Shy Says will be back real soon after that. It's gonna be on the new server and run on CentOS + Mono/ASP.NET/XSP + Node.js + lighttpd + PostgreSQL. The server code is nearly complete, and so is most of the HTML CSS, JavaScript too. It runs without a hitch on on my development server with Windows 7 + .NET 4.6 + Chakra (in place of Node.js) + IIS Express + PostgreSQL, but I'm still working out some kinks with getting it to work with Mono and XSP. It won't run on the current FSTDT server because it doesn't have PostgreSQL, and the host most likely would't let me use libgcrypt (the GPG library I use for hashing passwords as well as signing and encrypting cookies), and it definitely wouldn't let me use any kind of server-side JavaScript. Still, I could very easily drop it. The things I wrote and had in mind for that turned out to be toys. Pretty fucking cool toys. But toys nonetheless. They'll be on my GitHub when I upload the Shy Says source code.

4/18/2017 2:50:23 PM

SpukiKitty

@shy
Exactly; Besides folks just need to relax. In fact; For a goofy logo, I think I did a very good job.

....I forgot the "Cassiterides/Eye Beams" reference.

Oh; Well....I don't want to get stuff crowded.

4/18/2017 3:32:21 PM

Kanzenkankaku

@Spuki: I was under a much shorter, but equally Japanese name, Yuu previously, IIRC my last comment on these boards dates back about half a year.

4/18/2017 5:07:05 PM

SpukiKitty

@Kanzenkankaku
OH! I REMEMBER YUU!

*Hehe* See what I did there? *heh heh*...pun....

....Okay; That was dumb.

Well; I definitely remember a member called Yuu.

Welcome back, my friend.

4/18/2017 7:44:02 PM

Kanzenkankaku

@Spuki: Good to be back honestly. I heard FQA rebranded again and was merging with us? So maybe I'll post on the forums too sometimes.

4/18/2017 9:07:29 PM

Skide

@Spuki:

It`s so fitting, both the image and the message. :)
Downloaded the new pic for myself, so whatever we`ll decide on, I`ll have it in my possesion.

I think the motto stil adds(obviously) but I`m happy with what`s our collective decision will be.

4/18/2017 9:17:04 PM

SpukiKitty

@Skide
Thanks.

4/18/2017 9:41:45 PM

creativerealms

I think something has to be done about the James Wilsons. One of them might be the actual person but it's becoming a troll fest when he shows up.

4/19/2017 7:30:20 AM

creativerealms

Is it intentional that the flying penis looked like a penis shaped banana at first or did I see a Ray Comfort reference where none existed?

4/19/2017 7:34:27 AM

SpukiKitty

@creativerealms
LOL!

4/19/2017 9:14:03 AM

Mister Spak

I first found FSTDT in 2005 under its current name.

But at that time I remember a post a year older, in the archives where a fundie having an argument about the second law of thermodynamic evolution predicted the existence of the sun.

4/19/2017 9:19:37 AM



@Mister Spak

Would that be this one?

http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=8255

4/19/2017 11:40:00 AM

shy

@2043755: I will, and I intended to after I saw the change, but work has distract me and i am very busy right now with scheduling (loads of incoming freshmen taking Intro French and Spanish), being a handful of students' advisor, preparing final exams, grading writing assignments, putting in extra time to tutor some of my students one-on-one, and reading over a boatload of new textbook samples we just got and and picking textbooks for the next spring semester. Give me a few days to get caught up!! I have periods where I'm really free then really swamped, and April is a bad month for my work in general. But I wlll get it done soon I promise!!



Anyway! I will get around to reading and responding to everyone's comments when I get time! Probably this evening or early tomorrow morning. I really shouldn't be posting this comment right now and need to go because I'm five minutes late for a class! >_< Sorry for any typos or grammatical mistakes. I also hate having to use Opera Mini right now to get around my work's neurotic overzealous proxy filter.)

4/20/2017 12:09:52 PM

pyro

Yeah, I get it. It looks like something off a crackpot's website, on purpose. Just don't put it at the top of every page, okay? Half the reason for staying on FSTDT instead of just visiting jesus-is-savior myself is because I'd rather not stare at an eyesore for hours.

4/20/2017 7:18:49 PM

shy

@pyro: It's staying right where it's at now. And it's not going to multiply. If it does I'm taking down the server and calling the SCP Foundation.
_

@Everyone: I think we've got enough support to say it's settled we're keeping the image unless I have just incited a flurry of people who want it to go away with this comment.

@Spuki: My vote is on #2. LOL I love the Latin. Some of the inflections are off, but it's still completely readable. It's not too bad. You're not trying to be the next Cicero or Seneca, anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it. The syntax is very Romancey and really un-latin-like, at least if you hold Classical Latin and the "Golden Age" to be the zenith of the language. Yet the mistakes work here. This looks a lot like Liturgical Latin, and it's also something that came directly from the mouth — err, keyboard — of a fundie. Perfect.

Also, on a tangentially related note, today one of my friends from work noted that the extent to which Classics undergraduates perceive a Latin author's work to be pretentious and "overrated" (her words!) directly correlates with how overindulgently he (ab)uses Classical Latin's extremely flexible word order and violently tosses his words around into word salad in the purest sense.

Horace is probably the biggest offender, and I came to really hate him after my first and last time sitting a Latin class.* This Wikipedia article on what makes him so horrid provides an example of him at his "best." It starts toward the bottom of the linked section:

Quis multā gracilis te puer in rosa // perfusus liquidis urget odoribus // grato, Pyrrha, sub antro?
(word-for-word) "Which many slender you boy in rose // infused liquid urges odors // pleasant, Pyrrha, under cave?"
(meaning) 'What slender Youth bedew'd with liquid odors // Courts thee on (many) Roses in some pleasant cave, // Pyrrha ...?'[7]


This was (...and still is) apparently considered very eloquent and poetic rather than signs of a thought disorder. The Wikipedia page also an interlinear gloss of it at the bottom of the section. But even if you're like me and very familiar with glossing and what all the hyper-abbreviated technojargon means, it's still useless to parse this. Understanding all of the inflection doesn't even help much, either. Yeah, it's pretty clear I'm on Team Cicero and not Team Horace for greatest Latin author of all time.


4/20/2017 8:08:12 PM

Kanzenkankaku

This is pretty off topic, but does anybody know how long it takes for the admins of the forum to accept a request for an account?

4/21/2017 1:11:58 AM

Skide

@shy

Not to discredi Spuki`s awsome work but the motto was mine. :)
...And yes, my latin is noticably rusty, I`m actually cracking open a latin handbook today.

Edit:

At the risk of being a lazy bitch and wasting your time, how the below sound to you?

"Si autem non attribuunt defexit publico, quae sola potest esse attribuitur stultitiae peccatum videtur."

Probably poorly, so if you could tell me what to improve, I`ll be most grateful. The thing goes on my right arm in a form of a tattoo with the illuminati triangle eye above it and later to be encased in Revvy style tribal-celtic knot streaming up the right boob and down the arm.

ps. As a self inffilcted punishent, I just finished studying latin from my handbook, which I did for last half an hour. ;)

4/21/2017 1:58:38 AM

SpukiKitty

@shy
Yeah; The motto was Skide's idea. Once I realized it said "That's the beauty of Heaven, we can leave our brains behind." in Latin, I was like "NOW THAT I AM USING!".

4/21/2017 12:40:33 PM

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