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There is no proof that Muhammad rape Ayesha, yes he married her which was common practice among arabs at the time but he did not rape her?
[2/18/2017 8:35:14 PM]
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She was a child. A child.
2/18/2017 9:30:11 PM
No shit he raped her. Muhammad was a pedophile along with being the founder of Islam, and he's the reason why Muslims are pedophiles.
2/18/2017 9:33:33 PM
Really? Then what's this I found at the bottom then?
2/18/2017 9:34:26 PM
By today's standard, yes he did. However, at the time when Mohammed was alive, it was not uncommon for fathers to give their daughters (since they were property and not humans) to a man as a wife, even at that age. I have though (in various videos) when some Muslims were asked about how they felt about the age of Aisha being so young, many of the answers were that by today's standard, Mohammed would by all rights be seriously in trouble among moderate (and modern) Muslims. He would have no respect with them.
2/18/2017 9:48:40 PM
I don't like the 'cultural relativism' argument because there are some things that seem like they're wrong, and always should be.
This is one case where relativism is true, however: Muhammad grew up in a culture where baby girls could easily end up exposed to the elements or buried alive (both of which he forbade). Aisha, as she grew older, turned out to be highly intelligent and
one of the founders of Islam in her own right
Indeed no nine year old should be having sex. She was considered property in that era, though, whereas her husband did commit modern statutory rape but he also ensured his wives were educated and employed...which is a damned site better than what some Muslim (and US Christian) groups can claim now.
ETA: @ NeoMatrix: '...and that's why Muslims are pedophiles...'
You're not seriously this dumb. I refuse to believe it.
2/18/2017 10:23:58 PM
Insult to Rocks
Yes, he did, assuming the Qur'anic accounts are accurate(which is a big assumption). Mohammed did a lot of things that modern Muslims wouldn't like, some bad, some good, or at least neutral. It's almost as if he were an actual person, with flaws and anxieties, or something.
2/18/2017 10:26:24 PM
I'd say he did as she was 9 years old
2/19/2017 12:11:37 AM
NINE. YEARS. OLD.
2/19/2017 1:25:26 AM
Can't rape someone if rape is legally defined as impossible when done within marriage by the husband.
2/19/2017 9:12:58 AM
There is no way in hell I'm going to defend someone sleeping with a nine-year-old.
What I will say is that 1400 years ago, when this happened, he could have slept with her, he could have set her on fire. Pre-Islamic culture there wasn't kind to girls or women. And the concept of lifelong psychological damage didn't even enter their heads when it came to sex: If she could bleed, she could have sex. He was a man of his time in that. He was far ahead of his time in what he permitted to his wives as far as education and work were concerned.
2/19/2017 10:42:40 AM
2/19/2017 11:12:54 AM
Did he sleep with her? Political marriages didn't always have any actual sex, but I don't know enough about this one.
2/19/2017 1:35:11 PM
2/19/2017 3:03:53 PM
Statutory Rape laws. It's why the only way the likes of Tony Alamo & Gary Glitter will be leaving prison is in a
2/19/2017 3:48:09 PM
"yes he married her which was common practice among arabs at the time"
So your defense of Muhammed is noting that everyone else at that time was also abusing minor children? Really?
2/20/2017 3:52:43 PM
"There is no proof that Muhammad rape Ayesha,"
Except the part where the hadith says he did.
2/21/2017 11:23:20 AM