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Progress is a unique feature of Western civilization. With the exception of the introduction of technology, the entirety of the third-world has made no progress and continues in the natural state of man--constant, low-lying ethnic/tribal warfare.

Furthermore, who says we're against technical change? Whenever a leftist brings up "progress" it is almost inevitably in the social sphere, which yes, we do oppose. Currently speaking you have to be detached from reality not to notice that the threats to technical and scientific advancement are from the left who engages in suppressing work that doesn't fit a political narrative and who also peddle postmodernism which kills objective research.

No, diversity sets off warning bells and as I've said in a previous post, raises transaction costs and harms moral and social norms. The moral emotion of purity most likely developed to prevent such a thing from happening--you cannot diversify the heartland of a nation without repercussion.
To flip this, I find it funny that you people never assume that racism reciprocates. Native Americans were brutal to the settlers and currently blacks disproportionately commit crimes on whites, including rape which to my knowledge is not rooted in economic issues.

"The old system often benefits you conservatives, explaining why most of you are white. The old system benefits you mainly in wealth and society. Discrimination still exists because we have not foregone this system that doesn't work in today's society anymore."

Ding ding ding We aren't cucks who are going to go quietly into the night. We want the institutions that we helped build and were built for us to continue to benefit US. The bourgeois sold out the American white middle class and we won't forget it.

"Discrimination still exists because we have not foregone this system that doesn't work in today's society anymore."

Discrimination exists because multi-ethnic democracy and a multicultural society are alien and should be done away with. I'm not discriminatory toward Mongolians because they're on the other side of the Earth.

Why is an ethnic separation so apocalyptic to you? Or are you really using sheep's clothing to dress up the right for the global downtrodden to use our country as a battered women's shelter?

Trifle and Shadow, Reddit 21 Comments [2/16/2017 8:33:21 PM]
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Psycho Tits

Why is an ethnic separation so apocalyptic to you?

...because it's proven "apocalyptic" for so many others.

I guess those who forget history are doomed to post bullshit.

2/16/2017 8:44:39 PM


Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
MOTHER OF EXILES. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- Emma Lazarus, The New Colossus

2/16/2017 10:00:21 PM

Insult to Rocks

the natural state of man-constant,low-lying ethnic/tribal warfare

Oh great. Get a load of Joseph Konrad over here.

2/16/2017 10:49:00 PM

rubber chicken

Wah! It's my ball! i don't want others to play with it!

Your use of the word 'cuck' demonstrates that I can safely ignore anything you say.

2/16/2017 11:03:41 PM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

>the entirety of the third-world has made no progress
>third world nation
>e.g. nations not allied with either NATO and it's allies (first world), nor the Eastern Bloc nations (second world)

tl;dr the three world theory was never a perfect reflection of reality.

Austria, Finland, Ireland, Sweden and Switzerland were third world countries, as they remained unaligned during the Cold War. That is literally what a third world nation was. France partially withdrew (particularly from the military command, in favor of establishing their own defense force independent of it.) so strictly speaking they could have been considered as being sort of in between first and third world from 1966 until 2009 when they re-entered into full participation in NATO. Turkey was a first world nation, as was Algeria until it gained independence from France. All former British Colonies were generally considered to be First World.

Yugoslavia, while unaligned, were in a sort of unofficially official, but shaky alliance with the US. Yugoslavia broke away from the Eastern Bloc, and the US gave it extensive aid and the implied promise of military intervention if the Soviets tried to bring them back into the fold. There was still tension, and general distrust between the two, but not as much as there was between them and the Soviet Union. The idea was that if any communist nation was going to be even remotely successful, then it was going to be the one that was openly defiant and antagonistic towards Moscow. It was still probably one of the worst Communist regimes in Europe to live under though.

China was consider Second World, despite the fact that it and the Soviet Union were on the verge of war during much of the Cold War. The Soviets as it turns out were far more fearful of that, than a hot war with the US. And with good reason. They share a very long border with China, and a very long history of hostility against each other. Open war between the two meant that it was going to be fought on their own soil. Prior to US intervention, China and North Vietnam (with Soviet aid) were extremely hostile towards one another, and were on the verge of another war--they had actually already fought a border war a few years prior to the Vietnam Conflict. North Vietnam was also not at all happy with Pol Pot's bullshit either, and were itching for an excuse to take him out.

There were also 4th world countries, and those are the ones people are generally thinking of when they visualize the third world. These were countries that were so poor, and unstable that they were not really in any position to consider themselves aligned, or unaligned with anyone, as they barely could be considered Nations at all. Nations like Laos, and Afghanistan had large portions of their own population that were not even aware that they lived in a nation called Laos or Afghanistan, as they were largely traditional tribal and/or ethnic groups who did not really have any concept of nation, or nationality to begin with.

2/16/2017 11:50:56 PM


> Why is an ethnic separation so apocalyptic to you?

Mainly because, without exception, it has to be enforced by an extremely brutal police state? I mean, freedom's a pretty big deal to some people.

2/17/2017 12:26:59 AM

Hasan Prishtina

With the exception of the introduction of technology, the entirety of the third-world has made no progress and continues in the natural state of man--constant, low-lying ethnic/tribal warfare.

When a country makes sufficient progress - think of South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Barbados - it is no longer considered to be part of the Third World. If what you say is true, that could not happen.

And the people of Costa Rica have not been involved in military action in my lifetime. The same cannot be said for the Americans, the Serbians, the British, the Poles, the Russians, the French...

The moral emotion of purity most likely developed to prevent such a thing from happening

First of all, there's nothing moral about it. Secondly, it's been shown that humans have a preference for their own group even when it's randomly selected. It's got nothing whatever to do with race or ethnicity. It could, and has been, just as easily about religion, for example.

@ Creedence Leonore Gielgud

There was one respect in which Yugoslavia was better than the other communist regimes: it was possible to leave it.

2/17/2017 1:17:26 AM

"Why is an ethnic separation so apocalyptic to you?"

Because separate but equal left out the equal

2/17/2017 3:02:20 AM


There is absolutely no evidence of the Left suppressing any kind of scientific research; failing to believe in Intelligent Design does not count.

Meanwhile, the Right shuts down stem-cell research and therapeutic cloning, tries to suppress global warming evidence, and attempts to teach our children the current state of the natural world happened because a woman was convinced to bite the wrong apple by a talking snake.

Also: like somebody just mentioned, how can any grownup seriously use the word "cuck."

2/17/2017 5:19:07 AM


Why is an ethnic separation so apocalyptic to you?

In part because two friends of mine recently had a baby. The father's (ethnically) Asian, the mother's white. Break up their marriage, fine (/sarc), but what are you going to do with the kid? Chop her in half down the middle like King Solomon?

2/17/2017 5:45:26 AM


During the Dark Ages, progress was a unique feature of the Middle East. Before that, progress was a unique feature of China, and a unique feature of Egypt, etc...

Most of the third world are how they are because of the imperialism and exploitation by the first world.

Social progress and technical progress usually go hand in hand, nitwit.

The US is founded on diversity; people from all over the world came there and melted together.
The settlers were even more brutal to the Natives, and I'd guess that more black women are raped by white men, than the other way around, not to mention how many Asian women are raped by white men. Oh, and social status is much more important when it comes to crime rates, than skin-tone. People in poverty usually commit more crimes than affluent people.

Oh yes, you are cucks, whatever that means. Socialists aren't going to go quietly into the night either.

Ronnie Raygun sold out the middle class with his useless "trickle-down", and you seem to love him for it.
Why is a multi-cultural society so apocalyptic to you? Or are you using sheep's clothing to dress up rich-only-beneficial politics as "good for the ordinary man"?

We'd rather put the battering misogynists away, than the battered women.

2/17/2017 5:56:33 AM

Churchy LaFemme

"Native Americans were brutal to the settlers"

Yes, and the Normans were brutal to the Vikings, and the Romans were brutal to the Vandals. In fact, every culture that's been invaded by another has been brutal to the invaders.

2/17/2017 6:09:51 AM


Well, I guess we'll be regifting the Statue of Liberty. All that subversive, progressive, evil writing at the base and all.

What happened to the idea of a melting pot? Of taking the best from those that choose to call the nation home? Oh, right, alien. Not like that was the sentiment for most of the country's history, right?

2/17/2017 7:00:10 AM


The moment I see anyone using "cuck" I immediately dismiss anything they have to say.

2/17/2017 7:53:00 AM


I've seen a couple of videos on YouTube by a Malaysian couple who visit a general store in Pyongyang.

They're using smartphones.

The woman wears a Hijab.

When North Koreans aren't as racist as you...!

2/17/2017 9:04:05 AM

Mister Spak

"We aren't cucks who are going to go quietly into the night."

You're more like zoo monkeys screaming and flinging your shit around and cucking each other with bananas.

2/17/2017 9:46:38 AM


Why is an ethnic separation so apocalyptic to you? Or are you really using sheep's clothing to dress up the right for the global downtrodden to use our country as a battered women's shelter?

(1) Because it generally gets enforced by vicious cops with guns, clubs, dogs and firehoses.
(2) Because at least one minority group is going to be treated as second- or third-class citizens and denied society's advantages and perks on pain of death or imprisonment.
(3) Sometimes it ends with death-camps and killing-fields.

So, yeah, unless you're in the lucky majority, it IS apocalyptic.

2/17/2017 11:40:17 AM


Why? Come to my country and see why, fuckwad. Hell, your fascist ass might actually like it here for all you know! We`ll even make you space, don`t worry, we were getting the fuck out anyway. Having to do with freedom, integrity and the fancy desire to not be locked up in the fucking deathcamp or be murdered in the street.

2/17/2017 2:36:01 PM


This is essentially the "separate but equal" argument buried under a bunch of gobbledygook. What has been demonstrated time and again is that separate is inherently unequal.

The interesting part is that the Trump catastrophe is essentially the result of ignorant white folks not understanding how people they were taught were inferior to them are doing better than they are. The last straw was the election of a black president.

Here's a guy essentially explaining how whites, which is what they mean when they say "western civilization," are superior. The fact of the matter is that "western civilization" tended toward technological advancement because the fractured high population density Europe was in a constant arms race and a constant race against the elements and the diseases that evolved through the unsanitary living conditions including the close proximity of livestock.

Notice how the Europeans were always the ones to bring deadly diseases to the "backward" natives rather than the other way around.

2/17/2017 3:13:17 PM

Old Viking

Get your own act together. That last sentence is flagrant abuse of metaphors.

2/17/2017 4:22:00 PM


Native Americans were brutal to the settlers? Because of how brutal the settlers were? Is that not what would happen, logically?

2/18/2017 7:01:17 AM

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