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What a great fool it is to be an atheist.

Now the fools (atheists) have come up with more lies/atheistic propaganda. They discourage criticism and scrutiny of their atheistic propaganda because they know that their propaganda is all wrong and false.

Why would an atheist allow people to question, criticize, and scrutinize their propaganda since they are staunch anti-science fanatics and strongly the oppose the concept of criticism and scrutiny (one of the main principles in science).

Atheists claim that “less religious or atheist nations are more peaceful” and point out the murder rates in like 3-5 supposedly atheist countries (Denmark, Sweden, and New Zealand).

Now it’s time for me to debunk this claim:
Counterexamples:
Religious countries in Northern/Western Europe with lower murder rates than New Zealand, Denmark, and Sweden:
– Austria
– Switzerland
Austria is one of the most religious countries in Northern/Western Europe according to the 2005 Eurobarometer poll, and Austria’s murder rate is lower than all atheist countries in Europe and lower than every single US state as well.
Less Religious and atheistic countries with high murder rates:
– Estonia
– Latvia
– North Korea
Estonia is the country in Europe with the lowest percentage of believers in God (lower than all the other countries in Europe) according to the 2005 Eurobarometer poll and 2008 Gallup poll and Estonia’s murder rate is consistently one of the very highest in Northern Europe year after year.

So this claim has thoroughly been falsified by me with counterexamples to both (religious countries with low murder rates and atheistic countries with high murder rates).

I wonder why atheists conveniently leave out Estonia when mentioning how peaceful atheist countries are? It’s probably because they feel bad that multiple sources clearly show that Estonia is the least religious country in the world and that Estonia consistently has the highest or one of the highest murder rates in Europe.

What a shame Estonia is for atheists.

Correlation is not causation:
Distorting statistics to support propaganda is easy since correlation is not causation.

The countries atheists point out as being “peaceful” had low murder rates long before they were less religious or atheistic.

Since they had low murder rates long before they were less religious or atheistic this tells us there’s absolutely no causal link between religiosity and murder rates, meaning the reason these supposedly “atheist” countries have low murder rates is despite being atheistic.

Racism is peaceful?:
The countries atheists point out as being peaceful also happen to be the most racist countries in the world (according to all the studies done). Is a country with daily or weekly racism what atheists consider as peaceful?

But I forgot, atheists don’t consider racism to be immoral or not peaceful.

100% of all atheist countries are extremely racist, there is not even one atheist country in the entire world that is not extremely racist.

What a great fool it is to be an atheist, it’s no wonder they discourage criticism and scrutiny of basically all of their claims and any other claim that they personally agree with.

If a claim really is true then it will stand up to any amount of criticism and scrutiny, which is why atheists strongly discourage criticism of any claim that they personally agree with (knowing that it’s all wrong and false).

If we are to be honest with ourselves we can see that truthfully atheists are among the worst of all human beings, always out to deceive others, and trick people in order to gain converts.

Atheists will try anything to gain converts. They are so desperate and lame.

The simple fact is, I always win, always.

Sources for Religiosity:
– 2005 Eurostat Eurobarometer poll (http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_225_report_en.pdf)
– 2008 Gallup poll (http://www.gallup.com/poll/114022/State-States-Importance-Religion.aspx)

Sources for murder rates:
– UNODC crime statistics (http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/Homicide_statistics2012.xls)
– Eurostat crime statistics (http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_OFFPUB/KS-SF-12-006/EN/KS-SF-12-006-EN.PDF)

itsnobody, itsnobody.wordpress.com 14 Comments [2/16/2017 3:34:02 PM]
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Psycho Tits

You shouldn't use the term "fool" lightly. It could easily apply to you, and, worse: "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." -- Matthew 5:22

If you're a Christian and you call someone a fool, you'd best be sure you're right before uttering the insult. And may God have mercy on your soul if you're both wrong and a hypocrite.

2/16/2017 3:47:11 PM

DarkPhoenix

Less Religious and atheistic countries with high murder rates:
– Estonia
– Latvia
– North Korea


Yep, because clearly there are no situations involved here that might have an effect on murder rates, like say, the first two being within striking distance of a suddenly VERY agressive Russia, and the latter being a fucking dictatorship where questioning the government means death...

By the way, what kind of drunken logic does it take to conclude that North Korea is atheist? They, after all, mandate everyone treating the Kim family as Gods on Earth...

2/16/2017 4:12:22 PM

Kanna

Sorry, but you cannot believe in a supernatural deity without being anti-science. So I assume your opening screed is a reaction (an over-reaction) to one particular claim about countries with few Christians. You counter with Switzerland - which saw Christians drop by 21 percent between 2005 and 2012 - so maybe you don't want to hang your hat on that statistic.

I give you points for modesty and humility, though. But that "lame" conclusion, the last resort of adolescent impotence, is ...well, pretty lame.

2/16/2017 4:45:54 PM

Psycho Tits

Quite right. North Korea isn't atheist - at least not in quite the way this guy seems to think. There is a state religion: Juche the English translation of which means either "self-reliance" or "worship the Kims or die in a gulag." Both meanings are equally valid.

2/16/2017 5:16:29 PM

Shepard Solus

What a great fool it is to be an atheist.

What a great fool it is to open an attack upon others' intelligence by making yourself look like an illiterate dunce.

2/16/2017 7:50:38 PM

Nemo

"Less Religious and atheistic countries with high murder rates: ...... North Korea"

You mean that country where if you don't believe that the Kim family has supernatural powers, you risk being killed? That's what you think of as atheistic?

"The countries atheists point out as being peaceful also happen to be the most racist countries in the world (according to all the studies done)."

Citation needed. And no, a study which defines racism exclusively as a European thing does not count.

2/16/2017 9:50:07 PM

Malingspann

"itsnobody"

- Yes, I'm Dumm! And Nobody was hit by a car!!

2/17/2017 2:48:15 AM



What a great fool it is for someone to have come to the conclusion there are no gods because lack of evidence?

2/17/2017 2:52:30 AM

Canadiest

"Atheists claim that “less religious or atheist nations are more peaceful” and point out the murder rates in like 3-5 supposedly atheist countries (Denmark, Sweden, and New Zealand)."

"lower than every single US state as well."

Significantly lower.

Which is the point you're trying to debunk but can't so you instead misrepresent the religious levels and crime levels of European and soviet block countries.

2/17/2017 5:06:55 AM

Doubting Thomas

Why would an atheist allow people to question, criticize, and scrutinize their propaganda


Because they believe in the scientific method and peer review. If you'll notice, it's always Christian creationists who always disable comments to their Youtube videos.

2/17/2017 6:24:56 AM

Doubting Thomas

@DarkPhoenix

By the way, what kind of drunken logic does it take to conclude that North Korea is atheist?


Because this guy's definition of "atheist" is "anyone who doesn't accept the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal savior."

2/17/2017 6:28:03 AM

Anon-e-moose

Czech Republic.

NEXT!

This nobody is a fool. He is to be pitied. [/Mr. T]

2/17/2017 9:19:29 AM

Alencon

But atheists make no claims. They simply reject YOUR claim.

2/17/2017 3:29:12 PM

FELIX LÆTVS

I'm not even going to bother countering those points but point out something: Zimbabwe is very much a religious, and Christian, nation. Look at their plight.

2/18/2017 6:26:51 AM

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