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James C. Green, vice-chair of the Wasatch County Republican Party in Utah, asserted this week that laws mandating equal pay for women could cause hardship for men.

In a letter to the editor published by The Wasatch Wave, Green outlines what he says is “the problem with the Equal Pay bill being considered by the Utah Legislature.”

“Traditionally men have earned more than women in the workplace because they are considered the primary breadwinners for families,” Green writes. “If businesses are forced to pay women the same as male earnings, that means they will have to reduce the pay for the men they employ… simple economics.”

Green predicts that a reduction in pay for men “will mean more Mothers will be forced to leave the home (where they may prefer to be) to join the workforce to make up the difference.”

Additionally, the GOP official worries that men may miss out on the best paying jobs as they compete with women in the workforce.

“It’s a vicious cycle that only gets worse the more equality of pay is forced upon us. It’s a situation of well-meaning intentions, but negative unintended consequences,” he opines. “We should encourage our Legislators to drop the whole notion. Let the marketplace determine what free-market forces should prevail.”

James C. Green, Raw Story 15 Comments [2/16/2017 3:31:14 PM]
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DarkPhoenix

“If businesses are forced to pay women the same as male earnings, that means they will have to reduce the pay for the men they employ… simple economics.”


Um, not necessarily, but nice assumption there. Of course, this IS likely how corporations would prefer to deal with this...

They could, you know, bump the pay of women up to even it out...

2/16/2017 4:14:02 PM

Kanna

Lemme see here ...does the company pay more money to the man with seven children than it does to the man with none? Does the company pay more to the man who supports his wife and children and invalid mother than it does to the man who supports only himself and a boat and three cars and a vacation home in the mountains?

No? Well, there's your answer. It is not up to companies to indulge in social engineering, nor should it be up to the legislature. The company should pay the employees appropriate salaries for the jobs they hold.

2/16/2017 4:52:45 PM

darkevilme

“If businesses are forced to pay women the same as male earnings, that means they will have to reduce the pay for the men they employ… simple economics.”

for it to be simple economics the man would have to work less as the women worked more. Otherwise your argument assumes suddenly labour has been de-valued and gotten cheaper because of equal pay...which is absurd.

yes, labour will get cheaper if men and women are willing to work more than men alone, but if men were allowed more of a work life balance then that's less hours of labour being supplied to meet demand and the price of labour goes up.

"Additionally, the GOP official worries that men may miss out on the best paying jobs as they compete with women in the workforce. "

Why you so worried the straight white conservative male will fall behind? the company wants the best person for the job, regardless of gender. also, unless this woman is single doesn't her having the best paying job mean she's the breadwinner for her family? why is this a problem?

2/16/2017 5:51:13 PM

Shepard Solus

Gee. If only there was a safety net to prevent that. A sort of... oh, I don't know. A reasonable wage minimum, let's call it.

2/16/2017 7:53:21 PM

Malingspann

"If businesses are forced to pay women the same as male earnings, that means they will have to reduce the pay for the men they employ… simple economics."

Going from 'the men earn more' to 'the women earn the same as the men' is to be achieved by lowering men's salaries to women's level rather than raising women's salaries to men's level? Or *raising* women's salaries while *lowering* men's salaries to a meeting-in-the-middle level?

2/17/2017 2:53:36 AM



It would only do so in the minds of those who pine for 50s or Victorian eras

2/17/2017 3:00:18 AM

Pharaoh Bastethotep

If businesses are forced to pay women the same as male earnings, that means they will have to reduce the pay for the men they employ… simple economics.

"However, if we allow these businesses to contribute even less to the Common Good and let them get away with more and dirtier tricks, money would totally Trickle Down™ to the human ressour... er, I mean hard-working Americans!

Let the marketplace determine what free-market forces should prevail.

When will Libertarians finally admit that Free Market Capitalism is their religion and Mammon their god?

2/17/2017 4:45:55 AM

Doubting Thomas

They're really, really, desperate to fight against equality in any form, aren't they? Another reason I can't stand Republicans.

2/17/2017 6:30:09 AM

Azereaux

Someone doesn't understand "Simple Economics". Companies know that there is an inherent cost in reducing pay. If dealing with current employees, you risk raised turnover as they seek better opportunities and reduced production due to loss of morale. If looking at prospective employees, you find your pool diminished, as the less you are wiling to pay for labor, the smaller your labor pool is (as Labor is the good supplied in this case).

That is simple economics.

2/17/2017 7:17:13 AM

Anon-e-moose

Even the Ferengi realised that their women acquiring profit made the males even more profit.

...or are you scared that men may have to leave the kitchen: in restaurants/diners?! [/hyper-paradox]

2/17/2017 8:27:40 AM

Mister Spak

" Let the marketplace determine what free-market forces should prevail.”"

What if the marketplace determines we should have vast amounts of low cost porn?

2/17/2017 10:04:31 AM

Demon Duck of Doom

The solution there is to make the companies raise female wages. But something something socialism is bad...

2/17/2017 2:54:18 PM

Shepard Solus

@Mister Spak
The marketplace already went a step beyond. When's the last time you went to a paid porn site?

2/17/2017 5:56:03 PM

SpukiKitty

OH GIMMIE A BREAK!

This clown doesn't give a damn about economics! He just wants women barefoot and pregnant because he's an insecure dumbass!

2/17/2017 7:03:58 PM

Utah Tax Payer

After being raised by a single parent mother and knowing the challenges she faced to give us everything she could. You don't get it. You're not putting the shoe on the other foot. Something too many so-called leaders don't do. You need to listen. You need to listen hard. And before you make an opinion. Listen some more. Some of us wonder what it would be like to make enough that our spouses don't also have to work. Some of us have all the correct ethics in place to succeed, but are limited by the bi-weekly check we receive. And if I don't do this job, someone else will. But that doesn't mean the low paying job that continues to roll through employee to employee fixes its issue. Nope, it just operates as it wants. The power is in the dollar, not in the people. I wonder what it like up there, talking politics like you're helping the people. I'd be there too, but if I don't go to work today, the ground I vote from my be re-possessed.


2/18/2017 12:05:11 PM

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