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[OP of "Hitler and the "Big Lie""]

I'm so sick of people accusing Hitler and Goebbels of saying that they brainwashed the masses by repeatedly telling massive lies. What Hitler actually said is that Jews do this. And Goebbels was accusing the English of doing the same thing. So, if anything, Hitler was proven right since Jews constantly misquote Hitler...

CertifiedRabbi, Reddit - r/NationalSocialism 11 Comments [2/16/2017 3:31:04 PM]
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Psycho Tits

On a related topic, I've always...ALWAYS...wanted an explanation for the existence of the Hiwis and I'm not even joking. There were so many oddities like that in Hitler's Europe. So, sooo many. Basically it got to the point where even the dimmest bulbs realised something just wasn't quite right.

The reason I'm asking is because Nazism was/is basically a racist political cult, and like all dysfunctional groups, they'd say one thing - for example, spending six months tutoring bored new SS men about Saxon values - while doing another. The Hiwis are such a perfect example of this, leaving even the dumbest Nazi scratching his head and wondering, 'Since when can Ukrainians join the SS?'

It's all downhill from there.

I'll just be waiting in the lobby for you - for an explanation I'll never get.

2/16/2017 3:58:28 PM

Jimmy

You're conflating Hiwis and actual SS members here, but eh. Same difference.

The manpower situation in the East had gotten pretty dire. The Germans really needed all the help they could get, and every Slav that could dig ditches or murder Jews meant one more German at the front.

2/16/2017 5:31:12 PM

Psycho Tits

The Hiwis were a paramilitary police unit counted among SS manpower and they sometimes conflated themselves with the SS. Their allegiance was to the SS. And that is never going to make any fucking sense to me.

ETA: I know why the SS used them. What I don't get is how the fuck either side of that situation could square away their beliefs and national interests such that Slavs were butchering Jews for the SS.

2/16/2017 7:15:00 PM

Shepard Solus

A) Did he talk about it?
B) Did he engage in it?

He needn't admit to doing it. Acknowledging the practice and demonstrably engaging in it is enough.

2/16/2017 7:56:57 PM



Yes, Hitler accused the Jews of doing this - as part of his programme of doing it himself. Either that, or he actually believed what he was saying, and was therefore just utterly insane. According to him, there was an international conspiracy of Jews who were persecuting the German people by, amongst other things, starting and fighting World War 1 against Germany. Therefore, the German people needed to build up its forces and get on a war footing behind a strong leader (and Hitler graciously volunteered for this role) in order to protect themselves, even if they had to ignore and breach international treaties to do this. Any country that opposed Germany was, of course, being controlled by this shadowy Jewish cabal.

2/16/2017 10:25:43 PM

rubber chicken

Gosh, somebody is maligning Hitler!

I mean, if it wasn't for this calumny his reputation would be spotless. Apparently.

2/16/2017 11:07:16 PM

Psycho Tits

Sorry, 2020999, but certain of those treaties - I'm looking at YOU, Treaty of Versailles - were utterly terrible; formed at "peace talks" that conveniently excluded Germany even while subjecting the nation to reparations for a war whose beginning isn't nearly so simple as "Germany started it." (Apparently you can try a country and execute a judgement against it without there being anyone from that country at the trial. Real fair.)

Germany suffered two economic depressions between the end of WWI and the minority election of Hitler. I won't bother saying who I blame because it scarcely matters now. (And before anyone thinks that's code for, "I blame the Jews," think again. It's NOT.)

I could go on forever about that fuckery, which I think led to even more fuckery, which in turn has led to even more of the same. Right now, this benighted minute, the machine moves again and it's all just so god-damned stupid.

2/16/2017 11:19:13 PM

Doubting Thomas

Yes, Hitler constantly spread lies and then blamed Jews for lying. Kind of like a current president does with the news media.

2/17/2017 6:57:31 AM

Mister Spak

Another big lie in the Hitler tradition.

2/17/2017 8:20:04 AM

Anon-e-moose

Jews constantly misquote Hitler


I'm an Englishman who says that Shitler was a coprophiliac. And he only had one ball.

And as I still have my foreskin, you therefore don't have the right to think otherwise. Indeed, you are forced to agree with me when I say that anything derogatory said about Shitler is proven fact.

Especially about how Shitler ripped off his entire Reich, with that KdF-Wagen savings scheme: he LIED.

And if he lied once, he lied 24/7/365. About everything. And don't forget: as I'm not Jewish - as my foreskin's continued attachment to me proves - you are forced to agree with me.

2/17/2017 9:13:01 AM



@Psycho Tits

Even if a treaty is unfairly imposed on you as the loser of a war, what you risk by simply ignoring and breaching it is another war. What you really should do is go through diplomatic channels to argue that the treaty should be modified or simply annulled. As it happens, the response to the first few breaches of treaty by Germany was one of appeasement, not declaring war, even going as far as negotiating another treaty which officially authorized Hitler's invasion of the Sudetenland - which was then basically imposed on Czechoslovakia when they were told their choices were to accept this treaty or fight Germany alone from an already weakened position. Germany broke this treaty as well, a few months later, by invading more of Czechoslovakia. It is possible this actually emboldened Hitler and made him not take Britain's warning seriously when they pretty much said 'invade Poland, and we will be at war'.

And all of that is really irrelevant, unless you're trying to say there really WAS an international conspiracy of Jews persecuting Germany.

2/17/2017 9:39:41 PM
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