an honest atheist can only admit that he doesn't know if there is a God or not . which proves he is not an absolute atheist .?
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Not fundie just mistaken. As nobody at all can truly know whether there is a god or not, it's entirely down to what people believe , and if he is certain there isn't a god then he is therefore an absolute atheist.
The vast majority of atheists are atheists in the same way most people are aunicornists and afairyists - there is no solid evidence fairies, unicorns or gods exist. However, it is not entirely beyond the realms of possibility that, somewhere in the universe, somehow, there exists a fairy, unicorn or god, but believing this is the case because there is some slim possibility of it is absurd.
the only reason it's hard to be sure that there isn't a god, is that the god-botherers REFUSE TO DEFINE THE DAMN WORD.
i mean, it's like trying to be sure there is no jogpteshbtht. even Russell's Teapot isn't a strong enough argument, because at least everybody knows what a teapot IS, and the reasons WHY we can't be sure there isn't one in high orbit around Jupiter can be clearly explained and understood. "god" is not nearly so well explained as that.
i also mean, i'm quite sure that there is no god in the sense that *I* assign to the word "god". but there's no point in me even trying to explain my logic there, unless for some reason i want any and all god-botherers in the audience to demonstrate the hundred-yard goalpost dash; i know the moment i get to "thus there's no god, QE--" then off they'll go with "but that's not what WE mean by god!" of course it isn't.
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Well, all your 'God' has to do is honestly prove we Atheists wrong: and in the only possible way. We demand to be proved wrong. Now.
So either your 'God' is the most dis honest being in the space-time continuum, in which case he's a contradiction to himself, therefore he doesn't exist: or ...!
Solus. Shepard SOLUS.
Stupid auto-complete...
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No but I can potentially know whether those presented to me, as presented, do or do not exist by testing their alleged miracles and other claims against historical records and science. The only ones escaping that are the deists, and they do it by not presenting their god at all so if they dare to chime in then frankly they can cram their emergency fallback god up their asses. Still, you're right about one thing: a god may exist, yes.
But not yours ~.
I can not prove with absolute certainty there are no Gods, I do not believe with absolute certainty there is nothing supernatural in the world for I have personally seen things that defy all reason though I will exhaust avenues to explain them reasonably before I accept that they were truly supernatural, but I do believe and can prove that your perception of God is absolute bunk with complete certainty.
Mathematical negligibility.
The chances of any given god existing are so small as to be functionally zero. Yes, the chance still exists, but it's so small there's no sense to believing in it.
Which doesn't help the Christian case, because your God can be proven to be a cobbled together construct. Maybe one of the Gods he was based on? At any rate, all y'all priest and churches are mote, stop wasting time and resources.
I first heard my feeling on this back from Hitch and Dawkins about a decade ago. There's no evidence for a God so I live my life as if there isn't, pretty much how religious people actually do also besides the pretence.
The Judeo-Christian god admitted he wasn't the Only One, otherwise there'd have been no point in saying "thou shall have no other gods before me." Essentially he was the four-year-old on the playground jumping around saying "Pick me! Pick me!" Since all gods have been amazingly absent for millenia, it's not surprising more people are looking at gods the same as dodos and Great Auks: here and impressive once, but now extinct.
... and, so and what?
/BillHicks
Technically right. I can't really know with absolute certainty that there is a God or that there isn't one.
The fact that a lot of different sects say theirs is "the only way" and that their tenets can be contradictory leads me to abstain from judgment.
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