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As of this writing, it appears that ~4,000 people lost their lives in the attack on the World Trade Center. While this sounds like a large number of people (and it is the largest loss of life due to single terrorist attack), it represents only a small percentage of the people who could have died in those towers. A total of 50,000 people worked in the World Trade Center towers at the time of the attack. In addition, it was reported that 100,000 people visited the towers every day. This means that at least 90% of everybody in the towers at the time of the attack escaped alive! This sounds like a miracle to me. There are some other remarkable facts to consider. The first tower that was hit stood standing 45 minutes longer than the second tower, allowing more time for those who had no warning to escape. After the attack on the first tower, people in the second tower immediately began to leave, despite the announcement by management that everything was safe and under control. People interviewed later reported that they "felt" that they should leave. Did God communicate to tens of thousands of people to warn them to escape? It seems likely, since people usually listen to and follow the advice of authorities. In watching the crash of the second airliner into the second tower, it seems remarkable that the tower did not collapse immediately. There was a huge explosion that engulfed several floors of the tower at once. Did God miraculously sustain the tower for an additional 30 minutes to allow people to escape? Given these circumstances, it seems likely that God miraculously intervened to limit the death toll in the attack on the World Trade Center towers.

Rich Deem, God And Science.org 27 Comments [9/14/2016 2:57:36 AM]
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niv

omnipotent god and he can only sustain it for 30 minutes?

9/14/2016 3:18:07 AM

Mister Spak

"Did God communicate to tens of thousands of people to warn them to escape? It seems likely"

Or did people see an airplane hit the other tower and think maybe I should leave? It seem more likely.

" since people usually listen to and follow the advice of authorities. "

No, gullible authoritarian drones like you " usually listen to and follow the advice of authorities "(see Obamas birth certificate). This is not true of independent thinkers.

" God miraculously intervened to limit the death toll in the attack on the World Trade Center towers."

Where was your god when the terrorist were buying their tickets?

"Did God miraculously sustain the tower for an additional 30 minutes to allow people to escape?"

While god was doing miracles why didn't he keep the towers from falling down at all? Was that too miraculous for him to handle? Were his miracle muscles too weak?

EDIT: The vast majority of people below the impacts lived, while those above the impact died due to destroyed stairwells. It's almost like living/dying was due to common sense physical causes instead of a giant man who lives on clouds.

9/14/2016 4:44:30 AM

Hasan Prishtina

In large buildings, thousands come and go every day. They may only come to deliver a package, their job on swing shift may be over for the day, they may only have stayed to look at the design of the lobby or stop for a cup of coffee. It's nice to see the miraculous in small things, but you're pushing it.

9/14/2016 4:54:00 AM



Some people actually survived the attack! It's a miracle!

9/14/2016 5:02:34 AM

Happy Atheist

It doesn't sound like a miracle to me. A miracle would have been the towers not falling at all and everyone surviving. That not more people died is just good luck for the survivors.

9/14/2016 5:23:14 AM

Doubting Thomas

It's no miracle, if you're working in one tower and you see an explosion happen in the other tower, self-preservation would tell you that maybe you should leave the office.

And how shitty is it to claim that it's a miracle that more people didn't die when so many people did die? I guess the people who died weren't the lucky recipients of God's miraculous mercy that day. If I were God, I'd have made the hijackers all suffer fatal heart attacks before they left for the airport.

9/14/2016 5:29:07 AM

Malingspann

"God miraculously intervened to limit the death toll in the attack on the World Trade Center towers."

He didn't do anything to *prevent* the attack and the other 9/11 attacks, did he?

9/14/2016 5:34:50 AM

Churchy LaFemme

It's more likely that the number of people in the towers at the time was due to the fact that the planes hit so early in the morning -- before most employees showed up. Also, it's too bad that God thought killing 4000 people was acceptable, since he chose not to create a magical escape route for those above the floors hit by the planes. Or maybe he couldn't do something that obvious and effective.

9/14/2016 5:35:05 AM

Raspberry

Very sciencey.

9/14/2016 6:04:00 AM

Philbert MacAdamia

An airplane just hit my building, and it's on fire.
People are jumping out of windows. More planes are hitting other buildings.
Something tells me I should get out -- must be God talking to me. It's a miracle!

9/14/2016 6:22:33 AM

Exatron

As I recall, the attacks also happened at a time of day when there weren't very many people in the building.

And credit for the buildings staying up should go to the architects, engineers, and construction workers who built them. They weren't designed to take a hit from planes that large, and still managed to stay up for a while.

9/14/2016 6:23:43 AM

Kanna

What convoluted logic-salad! You would use the needless deaths of thousands to try to advance your silly religious views?

I spit on you, sir, and wipe you from the sole of my shoe.

9/14/2016 7:00:29 AM

Dizzy Dream

You know what would have been better than people getting out of 9/11 alive? 9/11 not happening innthe first place because then nobody would have died in the World Trade Centre.

9/14/2016 7:43:59 AM

creativerealms

That sounds like people escaping when they can and people getting everyone out before the towers fell. Don't give god credit for the works of man.

9/14/2016 8:36:12 AM

Swede

Didn't the attacks happen early in the morning? Not everyone had arrived at work by then, and few visit offices that early.

If the building next to where I work exploded, for any reason, I'd want to leave and get the hell away from that area as quickly as possible, for safety reasons, not for god reasons.

People usually listen to and follow the advice of authorities? At first perhaps, but once a couple of people said "fuck it, I'm getting out of here", many others would follow.

The towers were built to withstand quite a lot, and to crash straight down, to not topple over.

If there was a god active, why didn't he or she make the hijackers crash in the Nevada desert or somewhere similar? Or make them attack on a Saturday?

The hijackers were worshiping the same god as you do, Richie-darling.

9/14/2016 8:47:23 AM

NoXion

So God has the power to hold up a building for thirty minutes, but he doesn't have the power to induce a heart attack in the would-be hijackers?

9/14/2016 9:20:31 AM

StoneSpiral

Those buildings were built to stay standing under the tremendous pressure of their own weight. Most buildings in large cities even when these towers were built had things like earthquakes and blown gas lines in mind when it came to structural integrity. Didn't one of them even survive a bombing attack in the basement at one point?

I am far from surprised that the buildings stood as long as they did after being hit.

9/14/2016 9:35:01 AM

Uilleam

After the attack on the first tower, people in the second tower immediately began to leave, despite the announcement by management that everything was safe and under control. People interviewed later reported that they "felt" that they should leave. Did God communicate to tens of thousands of people to warn them to escape?

Are you saying your immediate instinct if the building next door were hit by a plane would be to stay where you are? Seriously?

9/14/2016 10:34:54 AM

Senomaros

@Uilleam

Yeah, that's the impression I'm getting too. Fundies like these give themselves and fellow humans no credit.

"Simple survival instinct and self-preservation? Of course not! It's obviously Jebus tellin' 'em what to do!"

Makes me wonder if they think that people who get hit by cars or attacked by wild animals or something like that are just passively standing around and doing nothing at the time because biblegod isn't spoon-feeding them personalized instructions.

Though, this little bit of projection somewhat explains it:

"Did God communicate to tens of thousands of people to warn them to escape? It seems likely, since people usually listen to and follow the advice of authorities."

Yeah, not when said advice conflicts with their survival-instincts, they don't. Though, apparently he's such a tool that he'd brainlessly stay in those towers after being hit if someone he perceived as having authority told him to.

9/14/2016 11:24:07 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Fuck you.

If god could "keep it up" for 30 minutes then he certainly could have prevented the incident in the first place, you asshole.

9/14/2016 12:10:37 PM

John

Did God miraculously sustain the tower for an additional 30 minutes to allow people to escape?

As opposed to miraculously preventing the disaster in the first place?

9/14/2016 1:07:48 PM

Philbert MacAdamia

C: Praise God, only 4,000 died.

M: Praise Allah, we got 4,000 of them.

9/14/2016 1:09:24 PM

Old Viking

How did the people in the towers feel about paragraphs?

9/14/2016 3:41:42 PM

checkmate

it seems likely that God miraculously intervened to limit the death toll in the attack on the World Trade Center towers.

Right! He saved a few extra, only to let them die a painful death from various sorts of cancer years later.

Oh shut up, you fuckface. If 9/11 proved one thing, then it's that there is no God.

9/14/2016 4:53:09 PM

Warren McIntosh

Yeah there was this investigation and in-depth report... y'know, on second thoughts never mind.

9/15/2016 6:19:13 AM

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