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When other "Christians" disagree with what the Bible says about homosexuality, they are disagreeing with God, and it's more than likely that they are not Christians at all, but wolves in sheeps' clothing. The definition of a Christian is one who follows the Lord Jesus Christ - and it HAS TO include a position on homosexuality being wrong because it's an abomination to God!

Mary Quesenberry, Christian News Network 22 Comments [5/10/2016 2:50:11 PM]
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"it's more than likely that they are not Christians at all, but wolves in sheeps' clothing.""

Exactly! Powerful, intelligent wolves stuck in a religion that is full of sheeple!


5/10/2016 3:14:35 PM

Titania

Adultery is also condemned by God, it's in the Bible. Then again, how many preachers expect to be forgiven when they are caught out cheating?!

5/10/2016 3:27:58 PM

Mathius_dragoon

This trait in fundies shows just how little self reflection they have. They claim to know what god wants better than anyone else and don't even have the slightest inkling that doing so might seem like its more about their perceived self importance then about following god.

5/10/2016 3:57:01 PM

Dizzy Dream

So what exactly did Jesus say about homosexuality. Would like a quote that actually comes from Jesus (hence it has to be in the New Testament). Remember to include where in the Bible it actually is so that we can actually check.

I won't hold my breath though.

5/10/2016 4:20:08 PM

Old Viking

There are so many abominations it's hard to keep track of them.

5/10/2016 4:26:35 PM

Senomaros

If you have to agree with everything the Bible says to be a Christian, and the Bible contradicts itself on numerous occasions, then according to your logic, wouldn't that mean it's impossible to be a Christian without the the use of doublethink and other torturous mental gymnastics?

5/10/2016 4:42:38 PM

Jerry

"it's more than likely that they are not Christians at all"

No, it is 100% certain that they are not Christians. And if Mary Quesenberry is preaching, neither is she. 1 Timothy 2:12-14


Dizzy: Romans 1

In the name of the Lord,
Jerry

5/10/2016 5:42:12 PM

SpukiKitty

Okay, Mary Quitecontrary; I know the Apostle's Creed by heart and know Jesus' words....not once is Homosexuality mentioned. Homophobia is not a Christian article of Faith and YOU CAN be a Christian and accept LGBTA Rights, evolution, Feminism, etc.

If your ilk would just get your noses out of the Quasi-Obsolete-By-Christian-Theological-Standards Hebrew Testament and stick with only the Nazarene Testament for once, perhaps you'll get ahead as a True Christian!

(No offense to Jews. Don't take my statement about the H.T. the wrong way.)

5/10/2016 5:48:12 PM

John

There are many things the Bible says are an "abomination to God". Homophobes just cherry-pick the parts that agree with them and ignore the others.

5/10/2016 5:54:56 PM

Anon-e-moose

@Jerky

And it's 100% certain that you are not a Christian:

Matthew 7:21-23 (QJV): 'Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.'

Homosexuality, Jerky? The 2001 Referendum in Holland (85%) ratifying the government legislation. Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act 2013 here in the UK, after the KJV-using Church of England peers in the House of Lords dropped their opposition to S-SM, thus the legislation breezed through Parliament, put in the statute book and confirmed as law in the speech by Queen Elizabeth II: head of the Church of England; Defender of the Faith. A certain legislation-deciding referendum in Ireland last year (62%): S-SM becoming legal there; the people had spoken. Their word is law. That SCOTUS decision in your country on 26th June last year.

Romans 13:1-5. Your 'Lord' agrees, don't bother him about it.

Homosexuality doesn't bother him, as the fact that the above legislation exists proves; otherwise what was stopping him from appearing in physical form in those countries' houses of governance/legislation to argue the toss, to the end of ensuring those laws (don't forget: Romans 13:1-5) didn't come to pass? It certainly doesn't bother those Real Christians Ms. Quesenberry is being all Jerky about. So why should it get your knickers in a knot, Jerko...?! [/Freud]

Romans 1 (QJV): 'Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God'

Derp.

No 'Context' allowed, neither. Absolutely no mention of homosexuality being a sin in that specific part of your QJV (but then, Gay king, thus Gay Bible, therefore Gay Lord...!); and Paul never met your 'Lord', ergo he =/= your 'Lord'. Please point out - chapter & verse in the NT verbatim - where your 'Lord' says that 'Homosexuality is a sin': verbatim.

Oh, and care to explain to us - especially Dizzy Dream - in great detail, based on the exact word of your 'Lord' (and remember: Paul =/= Jesus, as they never met) in your 'Christian Bible' as to WHY homosexuality is a so-called 'Sin'...?!

...because if he's approving of it today - remember: Romans 13:1-5 - therefore he's admitting that it's no longer a 'Sin'. Point out where it says in the Ten Commandments - which made all those 'laws' in Leviticus, which never applied to Gentiles in the first place, obsolete - that 'Homosexuality is a sin': verbatim.

Your refusal to do so will be a tacit admission by you that your 'Lord' says there's absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality, and you're wrong, Jerkoid.

...but you can always prove me wrong. If you can.

Remember: Romans 13:1-5. What has transpired since 2001 in Holland: a mainly Protestant country to this day, via King William of Orange: who fought against the Catholic King James II.

5/10/2016 6:33:42 PM

FELIX LÆTVS

Sorry, but many of you Christians are hypocrites.

How about when you follow your own Bible fully you can talk, but until then just shut up and stop whining about other Christians disagreeing with your backward views.

5/10/2016 9:23:45 PM

Kanna

That, of course, is why all the Christians in the world belong to the same church and have the same creed, the same policies and the same principles. Oh, wait...

5/10/2016 9:39:06 PM

Bill

"No, it is 100% certain that they are not Christians."

And it's over 50% likely that you are just here to say things people disagree with to get a rise out of them, like claiming to have 100% certainty of anything, really.

5/10/2016 9:41:47 PM

freako104

Mary would have been more correct had she said nothing. Same with Jerry. He at one time mistook Bible for Qu'aran and and he has at times sided with satanists. Mind you it was he calling them satanists. And agreeing with them. He tried to claim Josh Duggar wasn't Christian due to his fall yet praised the individuals who enabled him to fall.

5/10/2016 10:40:24 PM

Indicible

@ Jerry:

You keep quoting epistles, but never Jesus himself on the subject. So, in fact, you are not following Jesus, because the reasonable answer would be to admit that you do not know what he would say, but you are in fact following Saul/Paul. You are not in fact a christian: you are a paulite (might even be a Poe-lite, for all we know...).

5/11/2016 12:28:31 AM

Dizzy Dream

Sorry Jerry, I said a quote from Jesus, not Paul. Paul is not Jesus. Try again.

5/11/2016 2:08:51 AM

Jerry

Dizzy:

You know full well that ALL of the Bible is from Jesus. It doesn't matter if it was relayed through Paul, John, Matthew, or Moses.

Repent or Perish, pagans!

Jerry

5/11/2016 3:34:09 AM

Swede

The New Testament doesn't say much about homosexuality at all, to my knowledge.
It does say a whole lot about helping people in need; feed the hungry, heal the sick, give money to the poor, though. Do you disagree with that, Mary, dearie? Then you're not a Christian at all, either.

5/11/2016 3:45:30 AM

Dizzy Dream

For all I know Jerry, all of those men could have been lying. Anyone can write a book and claim it is the work of God.

How do you know that Moses, Paul and the rest of the prophets and epistles are telling the truth?

Also, still would like something that Jesus himself said.

5/11/2016 5:04:19 AM



The very same Jesús who was completely silent in homosexuality?

5/11/2016 6:28:56 AM

Anon-e-moose

@Jerky

Paul =/= Jesus.

Therefore the latter said fuck all about homosexuality. It was Paul, who'd never met him, Romans 1 specifically says fuck all about homosexuality, The Ten Commandments say fuck all about homosexuality, because what you rely on - Leviticus - to justify your homophobic bigotry has fuck all to do with Gentiles, ergo your 'God' has fuck all to do with homosexuality: because not even he can come up with a justifiable reason as to why homosexuality is a so-called 'Sin'.

You know full well that your 'Jesus' never actually wrote word one of your 'Christian Bible'. Nor did your 'God'. Unless you can prove that he put pen to paper/fingers to keyboard, proofread (lol, 'Omniscience'), sent the manuscript/Word documents to the printers, then had them bound & sent to the bookshops with the words 'Written by God' on the cover, therefore it was written by flawed, imperfect men: and codified by the early Catholic church; in a way so as to increase their power over the ordinary peons, and wield political power over entire nations.

The KJV - your 'Christian Bible' - is just a weak rip-off of that. And authorised by a Gay king, no less: Queen James I.

Gay king, thus gay Bible, therefore Gay 'Lord'. Prove me wrong. If you can.

It's probably the reason why your 'Lord' daren't argue the toss with Holland in 2001, the UK in 2013, Ireland & your country last year, re. S-SM becoming completely legal, as per Romans 13:1-5: your 'Lord' himself is as gay as they come; he hung around with twelve men two of whom were sailors. One of said twelve kissed him. Hardly associated with women, if ever (otherwise, what was stopping him from having twelve women as disciples, nay, marrying one...?!), nor did he have a girlfriend. Told others to 'Love your fellow man'. Wore a dress.

Did he actually WRITE that book? Yes or No. Your refusal* to answer 'Yes' - without the empirical secular peer reviewed evidence, as per 1 Thessalonians 5:21 [QJV]: 'Prove all things'; it says it that way, therefore it MEANS it that way. No 'Context' allowed - will be a tacit admission from you that he never did, therefore the philosophical question 'Did God create man or did Man create God?' is finally answered.

...but then, can you prove that your 'Lord' actually existed to be able to write that book in the first place? I refer you to the early RCC, and their agenda in codifying what would become your 'Christian Bible', Jerko.

No 'Lord', no word saying that homosexuality is a 'Sin'. But then, point out chapter & verse in the NT where your 'Lord' himself - no Paul allowed - says 'Homosexuality is a Sin': verbatim.

You know what you'll be admitting when you can't: and Dizzy Dream being proved right being the least of your problems...! >:D

*- Remember: if you don't answer 'Yes' with the necessary proof to our satisfaction, then you'll be admitting that your 'Lord' DIDN'T actually write that 'Christian Bible' of yours. But then, what was stopping him from just thinking and 'Poof!' Instant 'Word'?! But then, if he can't, then he's not 'Omnipotent', thus he's an inferior being, therefore he's not God, ergo he doesn't exist.

...but you can always prove Dizzy Dream, yours truly & everyone else in FSTDT wrong. We Atheists demand to be proved wrong, and to our satisfaction. Now. Remember: 1 Thessalonians 5:21 QJV....!

5/11/2016 6:48:14 AM

Doubting Thomas

In other words, no true Scotsman Christian accepts homosexuality.

5/11/2016 6:57:20 AM

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