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The Utah lawmaker who introduced a state resolution declaring pornography a “public health crisis” has taken his opposition a step further. During a conservative talk radio appearance on Friday, state Rep. Todd Weiler (R) said that the internet, essentially, violates a person’s First Amendment rights by “delivering pornography” to people who don’t want to view it.

“Someone may have the First Amendment right, according to the U.S. Supreme Court, to view pornography,” Weiler told Tony Perkins, host of “Washington Watch” radio show. “But what about my First Amendment right not to view it?”

This interview comes days after Gov. Gary Herbet (R) signed Weiler’s bill into law.

At first, Weiler specifically blamed McDonald’s for having free WiFi that did not block porn sites. According to Weiler, kids often go to McDonald’s or public libraries to watch porn on their WiFi networks — especially if it’s blocked on their home internet.

“If these libraries and McDonald’s were delivering cigarettes to our children, we’d be picketing them,” he said.

Weiler’s understanding of the First Amendment is deeply flawed, however. The amendment specifically bans laws that prohibit a person’s ability to exercise free speech. It does not, however, ban a person from NOT viewing another’s act of free speech. That’s like saying the amendment protects a pro-choice advocate’s right to never encounter anti-abortion protesters.

Instead, Weiler’s argument rests on his inability to control how others browse the internet. But exerting control over another person’s behavior in that way isn’t a constitutional right — far from it.

Weiler said he’s working with U.S. Senator Orin Hatch (R) to create a way for internet users to “opt-in” to online porn, rather than using parental filters to opt-out of porn sites.

Sen. Todd Weiler (R), ThinkProgress 38 Comments [4/27/2016 3:08:35 AM]
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niv

I am not American, but isn't the first amendment forbid the government from infringement of free speech? isn't that the opposite of censoring things you don't want to see?

4/27/2016 3:16:51 AM

darkevilme

At first I thought he meant like, he was just browsing along and then suddenly without him instigating it his screen was filled with titties (and his wife is a fool if she bought THAT excuse).

But then he brought up free wifi hotspots and this became slightly more reasonable. To be fair, should they have unfiltered wifi in an area where children are present and might be exposed to pornography?

on the flipside. Can this guy be allowed to succeed in any fashion given he's clearly of the puritanical bent? I mean, if you let the camel's nose into the tent sooner or later you have the whole camel.

4/27/2016 3:31:45 AM

LDM

Funny, I'm usually on the internet at least a couple hours a day, and I seldom come across any unsolicited porn. I must be going to all the wrong sites.

@niv-that's exactly what it means, but that's irrelevant to conservatives because they think the Constitution only applies to them anyway.

4/27/2016 3:49:16 AM

Skidie

I believe I speak for everyone here when I say: HANDS OFF OUR PORN!

4/27/2016 4:32:34 AM

Canadiest

For years the mostly Mormon state Utah has had the highest porn consumption, they (like all 'good Christians, in the Bible belt, highest interstate area of porn consumption) have to blame someone else.

4/27/2016 4:41:15 AM



Believe me, if somebody watches pornography is because they DO want. Unless you have something to hide.................

4/27/2016 5:06:38 AM

Mister Spak

"The Utah lawmaker who introduced a state resolution declaring pornography a “public health crisis”"

The LSD churchs pronouncements have recently been causing suicides so I think the wrong thing has been declared a "public health crisis".

4/27/2016 5:10:24 AM

JBento

@darkevilmeme:

Yes, yes they should have unfiltered wifi (disclaimer: I don't use free wifi hotspots). You're afraid your kids use free wifi hotspots to look at porn, don't get them devices that can access the internet, or set up parental controls on those.

4/27/2016 5:24:24 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Yet another uptight hypocrite trying to prevent people from checking out topless chicks & hot naked guys online.

Good fucking luck! You're going to need it.

4/27/2016 5:35:09 AM

darkevilme

@JBento:

I don't mean the kids looking at porn, if that was the issue..yes it's the parents job to put filters on their phone or whatever.
I mean the kids being present in an area where porn is being looked at and the parent has no meaningful control over that. and I raised it as a consideration, not as an absolute declaration. Playing devil's advocate as it were. Though I suppose the big question is just how often does this sorta thing happen.

4/27/2016 5:36:57 AM

Canadiest

Notice he's suggesting this porn is forced on them without them wanting it. This is the mantra of every Mormon caught looking at it.

" I didn't want that dear it just popped up!"
"That's not the only thing that popped up! Pull up your magic underwear and come back to grammas birthday party"

4/27/2016 5:48:37 AM

Wanderer

"Weiler said he’s working with U.S. Senator Orin Hatch (R) to create a way for internet users to “opt-in” to online porn, rather than using parental filters to opt-out of porn sites."

Good luck with that considering that you don't know how the internet works. And if you do succeed, what kind of excuse are you going to have when the wife catches you watching porn again?

4/27/2016 5:57:52 AM



You do not have the right to not be offended.

4/27/2016 6:15:34 AM



"violates a person’s First Amendment rights by “delivering pornography” to people who don’t want to view it."

If you don't want to view it, then don't google it.

4/27/2016 6:29:09 AM

Doubting Thomas

violates a person’s First Amendment rights by “delivering pornography” to people who don’t want to view it.

Yeah. Right. Bull F-ing shit they don't want to view it. I've been online since 1997 and the only time porn has popped up on my computer screen is when I'm looking for it. Talk about a solution in need of a problem.

And it's not like porn is actually harmful anyway, it's usually just a way for people to ease their sexual urges they naturally have anyway.

4/27/2016 7:04:18 AM

Mister Spak

@Doubting Thomas:

I had unwanted porn pop up. In 1997 I was searching on sodomy laws in Georgia and I kept getting porn.

4/27/2016 7:27:54 AM

Demon Duck of Doom

Another proud Foe of the Windmills!

4/27/2016 8:26:28 AM

freako104

You don't have to view it genius

4/27/2016 9:06:51 AM

Juston Beber

The internet is really really great!...

4/27/2016 9:32:22 AM

Anon-e-moose

...are you one of those who said 'Someone must've put a Trojan on my computer, and unwittingly uploaded certain kinds of porn onto my HD', eh? [/Gary Glitter]

You can only find certain kinds of porn if you specifically look for it.

I wonder what's on your HD, Toddy-boy...?! [/Josh Buggar]

Me, you can never go wrong with pics of Bettie Page. And easily & openly available via Google or Bing:



And women - as in adult - who are clothed are hotter anyway.

Bettie was a sexually liberated woman - even as a Christian - who had no hangups in that most Puritanical of times in the US; she helped to break down certain taboos, so what are you afraid of, senator...?! [/David J. Stewart]

4/27/2016 9:34:06 AM

KingOfRhye

“But what about my First Amendment right not to view it?”

There is no such right in the First Amendment.

4/27/2016 9:41:03 AM

Elie

I honestly don't get his argument. If you're worried of your kids' viewing habits, put their devices on safe mode. Libraries and other places with public devices already have safe mode enabled.

4/27/2016 10:09:26 AM

nazani14

It's up to parents to install Net Nanny or similar on their kids' phones & devices. If you want wholesale blocking, move to China.

4/27/2016 10:43:46 AM

Dyz

Anything to avoid educating children and prepare them for adulthood.

Sex is bad mmmkay?

4/27/2016 10:56:17 AM

Ibuki Mioda



Okay, as far as Ibuki knows, the most common way to get porn on your screen is to search for it. If Todd-chan's seeing porn all the time, then you can bet it was a calculated act.

With the way Todd-chan describes it, Ibuki gets the mental image of him hanging out at a wifi hotspot, looking over people's shoulders and waiting for the chance to berate them once he sees an image of a shirtless man or a woman showing the tiniest bit of curves or cleavage.

4/27/2016 11:09:15 AM

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