On his radio program today, Bryan Fisher laid out his theory about where dinosaurs came from, explaining that they were simply lizards that grew very large because they lived for 1,000 years.
As Fischer explained, prior to Noah's flood, the average human lifespan was 912 years, so logically the lifespans of animals and reptiles and the like were also much longer during this period. And since reptiles continue to grow until they die, Fischer said, it stands to reason that a lizard that lived for 1,000 years would eventually grow to be the size of a dinosaur.
Asserting that there is "no reason to doubt" the Bible when it says that Methuselah lived for 969 years, Fischer declared that if some salamanders today can live for hundreds of years and grow to be several feet in length, then obviously lizards before the flood could live for a thousand years and grow even larger.
"I'm thinking that could be the explanation for dinosaurs," he said. "They were just like reptiles that just like grew for a 1,000 years, kept growing, kept growing, kept growing."
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Well then, his "theory" is bullshit. There is no evidence for any worldwide flood, and certainly not as recently as a mere 4000 years ago. There is also no evidence of humans or dinosaurs living that long, ever. Dinosaurs were not lizards and their modern offspring are birds.
How come the eggs of some dinosaurs were huge, if they grew to be huge over time?
Not all dinosaurs were large, btw.
There is every reason to doubt the Bible, as it contradicts itself at every turn.
No, you're not thinking, you're spouting nonsense.
"Asserting that there is "no reason to doubt" the Bible when it says that Methuselah lived for 969 years"
Are you suggesting that Methuselah was a Gallifreyan?!
Ergo, there is no reason to doubt that what is produced by BBC Cymru in Cardiff are documentaries then.
I don't know the lifespan of Ice Warriors, but it is possible for them to be frozen in stasis - in ice - for thousands of years, so I guess watching certain episodes of "Doctor Who" could confuse the stupid such as you, Bryan Fischite.
One fiction is just as good as another ...!
Mr Fisher, how do you account for the bone structures of dinosaurs being different from existing reptiles in many ways? And if Noah had two of everything on the Ark, why don't we have little versions of these dinosaurs still around? Like dog-sized triceratops?
Mr. Fisher? Hello?
*crickets chirping*
Damnit, I wanted a micro-stegosaurus, too...
So, the longer the lifespan of a reptile the bigger it is? So why does the stinkpot live into its fifties when the much larger Indian cobra only get into its teens? And why don't we find the bones of smaller, and presumably younger, dinosaurs that died prematurely?
@ Mihangel apYrs
how the hell does he get 912 years as the average human lifespan? Surely that isn't written down in the Wholly Babble?
It's said (according to the bible) that Methuselah lived to be 912 years old. That's why a lot of people say that humans used to live to be much older than we do now.
Another irritating thing about creationists: This isn't Fishers Theory, it's creationist garbage from over 50 years ago he's adopted, Hovind spewed this shit out over a decade ago as well (and is back out repeating it just now)
Their egos are so huge they claim ideas from their own camp as theirs regularly.
Like Ben Carson claiming he's got a theory the Pyramids were for grain storage, against all sense in fact or desire to claim such idiocy as his own especially since it's not, it's stupid fundy dogma from the Adventist Church branch.
Hovind claimed/claims ideas from years ago as his to, partly ego and partly because they know their followers are not the researching kind, they're followers. They're cultive personality followers, they want one man to explain one Gods plan to them.
First, salamanders are amphibians, not reptiles. Second, they live 10 or 20 years, not "hundreds of years."
Sorry, no prize but thanks for playing.
Dinosaurs aren't lizards, and dinosaurs weren't necessarily big. We're just familiar with the big ones because those are the ones they put in museums. We can estimate the age of dinosaurs at death by "growth rings" on their fossilized bones, and these suggest they had only lived 30-40 years at the time of their death, by which time some were already huge. The T-Rex in Chicago is estimated to have been 29 and she was almost 40 feet long.
@Mihangel apYrs
"how the hell does he get 912 years as the average human lifespan? Surely that isn't written down in the Wholly Babble?"
The Bible mentions 'Giants'.
Therefore according to Bri's logic, "Macross"/"Robotech" are documentaries, as they feature the 50-80 foot high Zentraedi.
What next? "Neon Genesis Evangelion" was a damn good guess - as prophecies go - by Gainax?!
Am I the only one who thinks the lizard/dinosaur thing is kind of...cute? I read about the Hovind version of the same idea on RationalWiki a couple of months ago. Their page says Hovind claims the triceratops was just a Jackson's chameleon that could grow to an enormous size. I spent a while looking at a picture of a Jackson's chameleon and comparing it to the triceratops. All I could think was: if my five-year-old niece raced up to me and explained her version of this, my heart would just melt. It's sweet, isn't it?
they were simply lizards that grew very large because they lived for 1,000 years.
That's why my 84-year-old mother, who is about twice my age, is also twice as tall.
I guess genetics just happened to start working by magic after "the fall."
If that were the case, we'd have a very different fossil record. For one thing, the majority of those dinosaurs we found would be much, much smaller.
Mainly because very few of them would actually be able to survive for 1000 years.
I know very little about biology; and I could refute that theory in a few seconds. That's generally a sign of a stupid theory.
Reptiles have no maximum size like mammals and indeed keep growing for their entire lives. However, growth slows down drastically upon reaching adulthood.
It might also be noted that the Sumerian king lists give similar lifespans for early postdiluvian kings (with Gilgamesh, who is placed at ca. 2600, "only" ruling for 126 years, and the kings following having much more realistic life spans), and the Antediluvian kings all ruling for ten thousands of years. Which clearly shows that, even at the dawn of civilisation, Earth had existed for a much longer time than human memory.
Confused?
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