I think astrology can be proven to be very scientifically accurate in timing events, but science won't understand the spatial concept of it.
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very scientifically accurate ... from a geocentric perspective.
In other words, about as far off as one can get.
This came from a thread asking if astrology was scientific. Instead of any straight answers, you get a bunch of people dodging the question repeatedly and then nonsense like this. Such is modern-day astrology, evidently.
You can time to the very day events such as these by using Ascensional Times of the signs and directing the Ascendant to Mars:
So how many other times can I use astrology to predict disaster and its just another day as usual and there are no historically significant events?
Robert Zoller very accurately predicted 9/11 and went as far as contacting the authorities to report it.
So a crazy man said that, I guess, because the only place I ever read about Mr. Zoller is on astrology websites and people discussing astrology.
These are not mumbo jumbo techniques or fortune telling, this is the mathematical movement of the horizon to the ecliptic over time
Correct, astrology is based on the some pretty impressive math. The problem is when astrology says that that math somehow affects our lives and civilisation.
If astrology works, how come twins born just minutes apart have completely different fates?
And if you give one single horoscope to about 100 different people, way more than 1/12 say it applies to them?
And how come the same star sign in different newspapers on the same day often has wildly different predictions?
And why isn't anyone an "Ophiuchan"?
"I don't believe in astrology. I'm a Sagittarius, and we're skeptical. "
Arthur C. Clarke
1939 Czech Invasion, Mundane astrological event that had no correlation a zillion other times.
These are not mumbo jumbo techniques or fortune telling, this is confirmation bias, and the inability to distinguish between coincidence and causality.
Fixed.
Close Encounters of the Third Kind Said while staring at a handful of shaving cream.
Right you are, hindsight is good at that. I assume that accurate predictions will be forthcoming, huh? That would be "fortune telling" indeed, and definitely mumbo jumbo as well. Wake me when that happens, which will be when pigs fly.
Gee. You mean to tell me that largescale acts of violence, which have been an almost nonstop occurance throughout recorded history, sometimes happen during particular times to which you've arbitrarily assigned a superstitious meaning? Well stop the fucking presses...
++"Very scientific
No. It's not.
++"an alien concept to modern science, but not from a geocentric perspective.
And there would be the indisputable proof. Something that can only make sense within the confines of an incorrect model of reality is utterly bereft of scientific value. At that point you have exactly as much credibility as someone who claims the the moon is a hologram concealing a mind-reading alien spaceship or the 14 nuts down at the local asylum who all claim to be a reincarnated Napoleon.
"directed to Mars"
That is one huge difference between astrology and astronomy. Astronomy is concerned with the physical properties of planets, stars, galaxies etc. while astrology only cares about the *names*.
If back when the planets of the solar system got their names, the planet we know as Mars had been named Venus and vice versa, then today astronomy would've been the same but astrology would've been very different.
And what happens in astrology if, say, a planet is demoted to dwarf planet, like Pluto?
Why don't you give us a future predictions then? If astrology is reliable, then there's no need to hold back on future dates which should raise concern.
While you're at it, you could help explain, clearly, why all other astrologists that contradict your interpretations of the planetary alignments are wrong, but you are correct. Show how their methods are faulty, whereas yours are grounded in reality.
Geocentrism is just as scientific as phrenology and alchemy. Not the slightest, that is.
1939 Sweden was not invaded. Which constellation direction to what planet foretold that?
@Malingspann
They keep including them in the charts anyway. A lot of charts on that site include all the dwarf planets, like Ceres, Eris, Makemake, Haumea, and other dwarf planets.
When you're able to determine future events due to the position of planets and stars, then get back to us.
Robert Zoller very accurately predicted 9/11 and went as far as contacting the authorities to report it.
Bullshit. Was the position of the stars and planets so specific that he could tell that four aircraft would be hijacked by Islamic terrorists and flown into buildings?
So how come the London attack had nothing associated with Mars? And what about all the violent events that happened between 1941 and 2005, like, um, Stalingrad, D-Day, Hiroshima, Korea, Vietnam, the Six Day War, the Iran-Iraq War etc. - got nothing on them? And it's "Pearl Harbor."
Precession. Also, Jupiter & Saturn aren't planets, but gas giants. And didn'tcha get the memo? Pluto isn't a planet.
Also stellar drift. And Ophiuchus .
NEXT!
Just to pick at an insignificant nit here, but Czechoslovakia wasn't really invaded. The Nazis gave them a choice to become assimilater into the Reich, or face war. Thanks to the inactivity of the Allies (and compliance from the USSR), the government in Prague decided to capitulate rather than risk uge loss of life in a fight that was certain to go against them.
In my defense, I'm reading Antony Beevor's excellent history of World War II at the moment.
Spatial concept? You mean your belief that a random star can be 5 times farther from Earth than another, but still be part of Orion's belt and have some influence on Earth? We get it, and it's stupid.
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