I like all kinds of Dykes, every kind—well, I do have my preferences, but at least I know another Dyke(whose out loud and proud) will completely understand my sexuality in a way a bisexual woman cannot. She will always be holding back on some level, emotionally, mentally, spiritually. If she is also sexual with men, I don’t want whatever beautiful Lesbian energy I share with her or put into her, to then go directly to men, or for her to talk about our most intimate experiences with some dude..then I feel psychically ripped off. I’ve had my share of bisexual women, and even though all the sexacts may be the same, the magic of those acts are not—cuz only another Dyke ‘gets’ me. She is willing to be in the trenches with me when push comes to shove. She’s not likely to flirt with a dude, or give a dude energy. A bisexual woman very likely would. Another Dyke knows what daily Dyke oppression is like, from hetero males, to straight women who fear us—a bisexual walks between the two worlds. She can marry her man, while still fucking women—.for the most part, with few exceptions and few states, and some countries, we cannot, or even if we do, our marriages won’t be well recognized and heap us with the privileges heteros and even bisexuals take for granted. Also, she can go back into the hetero world with all it’s privileges and be legitimate, or seen as legitimate and keep her bisexuality on the ‘downlow’. Less than. Second fiddle. Us Dykes don’t have that luxury, no matter which corner of the Dyke communities we come from . We’re still pariahs. She can bail and go back to hetero privilege by taking up with a man, or even single expressing desire for a dude, when the going gets rough.
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You think bisexuals aren't as oppressed as lesbians? I'd say that bisexuals are easily treated worse than lesbians. Some people seem to think that bisexuals don't even exist when we are all bisexual in a way.
Still, heteronormatism discrimination occurs to lesbians, and bisexuals, and thebans (credit goes to @SpukiKitty for the term), and transgender persons, and so many other sexual minorities. It's almost as if you should team up with pro-bisexual activists to get more rights for non-het persons in general.
New TV show (possibly):
IN A WORLD where bisexuals are roughly 9 out of 10 of the population, one teen must come of age with the realization that he/she is monosexual; that is, exclusively straight or gay.
Watch him/her get on with his/her life afraid of being found out and ostracized by friends and family, finally finding support upon joining a Monosexual Pride Group...
*SHOUTS THROUGH CUPPED HANDS*
STOP COMPARING OPPRESSION STATS, IT'S BAD FORM
If you feel the need to play whose the most oppressed, then, as a ambassador for the gay community, let me tell you that WE DON"T NEED YOU.
Disgusting bigotry, always worse when its perpetrated by one minority against another.
This is exactly what happens with 'coloured' (i.e. mixed race) people - there is a real strain of racisim against them perpetrated by some more 'pure' black individuals (basically, the rule as I see it is that any identifiable group characteristic will inevitably be used as a vehicle for bigotry by someone).
An apt warning though, as always - bigot peices of shit come in all flavours, including women, gay, black, white, muslim, jew, old, young etc etc etc.
@Robespierre
Are you saying MasterAmazon & Dirt are men?
Now I'm confused.
Either these are extremely self-hating males or these are Male Supremacists pretending to be their distorted conception of feminists (in this case, the 'TERF' thing) in order to stifle the Women's Movement.
Is that what you're implying?
Yeah, cause it`s so fucking nice to constantly hear that I either do not exist or have it just soo damn good. Most people on earth are bi, whether they realize this or not, it`s just that most of them can ignore this fact while some of us around half and half cannot easily do so and if this dipshit thinks it`s just oh so cool to literally shut down half your sexuality for the rest of your life, whichever choice you make disgusts me.
She`s a dyke, as she proudly proclaims, she might know how it is to be sexually inactive for the fear of societal retribution and yet will condemn others not exactly like her for the crime of "swinging both ways".
Sorry for the rant, but this is veery personal thing for me, as I was often relegated to spoiled deviant even by some "purists" among lgbt community simply cause I have terrible problem(and do not want to) choosing and sticking with having relations with only one gender. Luckily I`ve found a wonderful guy who does not force it on me, but lets just say this dipshit here stirred some of the pain.
> You guys know this is a man, right?
What?! MasterAmazon called themself a dyke; doesn't that make them a Lesbian, and therefore female?
The fact that a bisexual may have to keep their sexuality hidden should be an obvious indicator that it is not seen as socially acceptable by a large proportion of the population, and that they don't experience any so called special privileges.
Seriously, bisexuals have to put up with this discrimination from some heterosexuals and homosexuals simultaneously, and the latter is often hard for the bisexual to take given that they would have thought that they'd have had a strong ally fighting for the acceptance of something natural and beyond their control.
So bisexuals are better off because they have to hide their sexuality from homophobes and are also hated by gays?
Like mixed race people are better off experiencing racism from both sides?
Oh, and you also seem to be confusing lesbian sex with homeopathy.
@Gooms, @SpukiKitty : Thebans! I love it.
But oh man, it reminded me of something else almost-but-not-quite related: these hyper-insecure, internalized-homophobia-addled, misogynist* gay and bi men (NSFW) who call themselves "cockrub warriors" (seriously ) and think anal sex is an evil boogeyman that poses a serious threat to their manhood. They nearly ruined homoerotic warrior imagery for me when they appropriated actual Thebans to broadcast their anally-fixated masculinity issues. That decision is pretty funny in itself because, well, "the vice of the Ancient Greeks" ain't a euphemism for buttsex for nothing. Their lunacy is actually very similar to this lady'scomplete with ~magical masculine essence~ cray-craybut they're ironically not guilty of biphobia. I should go mining their site for some FSTDT-worthy material to submit; there's some truly special stuff on there that equals this person's insanity.
*Essentially "feminine = bad, and penetration = feminine, therefore penetration = bad." Two false premises, a false conclusion, and a logical fallacy to arrive there. There's more to it than that, though. Their entire mindset is an epic intersectional trainwreck that has it all: internalized homophobia, heteronormativity, misogyny, essentialist binary bullshit, phallo(go)centrism, apparent ignorance that transmen even exist, toxic masculinity (ooh boy howdy)...
A deconstruction touching all the bases would probably approach book-length.
(Also, I'm one of those Thebans who usually prefers frot. Most of us are not like this. I hate that I feel the need to point that out.)
You think bi women *WANT* to be "on the down-low"? Do you know how fucking hard it is to an "out and proud" bisexual without getting inundated with this same shit from both sides? Our lives can either be an endless coming-out process if we're monogamous, or "proof" that bisexuals are unable to be monogamous, if we're not.
This is the same sick, tired, biphobic diatribe we get all the time, and you wonder why we don't dive headfirst into "dyke culture". You will always see us as less than because of our sexual orientation, no matter what we do, and considering the oppression you yourself have faced it is sick that you turn around and do the same to us.
In the light of that, why in the world would you expect us to put energy into you?
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
I can't really fault this person for having this opinion. Seems borne from experience, not dogma. Plus, there's no anger here. Just a point of view.
Though, as a straight guy, I don't see much hate towards dykes in daily life. Then again, I'm not one.
Lady, calm the fuck down. We're completely down with your sexual preferences, nobody cares.
Also, learn to use line breaks. This made my eyes hurt.
@Grimsoncrow
Dyke sex magic.That's a new one
Oh, not at all.
@Evilutionist
Yes, and a lot of racists for example ALSO speak from "experience", having grown up in cities where their only experience with minorities was when they interacted with the worst among them.
Unfortunately, personal experience alone doesn't make for an informed point of view, if it causes you to believe that the entire world is like your experience.
(The "you" in this case being the original poster.)
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