["like it doesnt matter what beliefs you have, if you’re telling people to commit suicide as a means to defend said beliefs, you’re an awful person and i will not defend you for a second even if we agree 100% on every other issue"]
you’re kinda missing one key thing with this analysis, namely that, like, there’s a lot of good reasons to actually want someone to die.
trans lesbians face an absurd amount of abuse and violence in our lives, and you’re more concerned about how we respond to that? that’s fucking disgusting.
the fact is, your actions are actively helping to perpetuate a system of violence that results in the suffering and death of women like me. YOU are the one enacting violence; telling you to kill yourself is, for the marginalized people you’re hurting, a matter of self-defense.
do not try to take the fucking moral highground when you begin this whole thing as a fucking abuse apologist. the world would be better without you in it.
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So, this person tells her interlocuter not to take the moral high ground, and then attempts to argue that the other person should kill herself because "I'm so much more moral than you!"
That seems like a contradiction to me.
I agree with the person who posted to you.
You are, in fact, an awful person.
Make the world a better place (for me); kill yourselves!
I suggest everyone (except a few of my friends and family) kill themselves. It's not about your ideas; I hate all of you equally.
There is not enough information in this quote to know what is really going on.
"you’re kinda missing one key thing with this analysis, namely that, like, there’s a lot of good reasons to actually want someone to die."
Such as saying a statement like that.
you’re kinda missing one key thing with this analysis, namely that, like, there’s a lot of good reasons to actually want someone to die.
The hate groups who want people like you dead say the exact same thing about you, dearie.
The fact is that you're both fucked up.
Certainly there are many many people in the world who objectivley deserve death. Unfortunatley, all of the tests we can devise to identify and judge these people contain a subjective element. Some of those tests we still use despite their obvious flaws, such as killing enemies in war time or killing in self-defence. Some of them we argue about using, such as the death penalty for crimes.
However, one that we generally try not to use, is leaving the choice entirley up to an individual, especially an individual who has a personal interest in the outcome. Depending on the character of the individual decision maker, that usually ends with some sort of variation on killing everyone for anything, just in case and just because I can.
So no. You may be quite right that this person deserves death, but you are quite wrong to think they should indeed be put to death simply because you think that (even if you are right).
Frankly, I have a low opinion of humans generally, and if it was up to me I'd think seriously about erradicating you all as a species before you start colonising the galaxy. Probably wouldn't, but it just goes to show that even if you think a universal judge is a good idea, you should be very careful what you wish for.
It starts with someone else calling this guy out for telling other people to kill themselves, and ends with "the world would be better without you in it".
Something tells me this guy only knows one way to argue.
Frodo to Gandalf, in the context of Gollum:
"Now at any rate he is as bad as an Orc, and just an enemy. He deserves death."
And Gandalf the Wise's response:
"Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Someone who uses hipster in 2015 talking shit. hilarious. Shouldn't have you been in school when you posted that?
For the record, I'm by no means defending the OP, but I know a fucking douche when I see one.
the fact is, your actions are actively helping to perpetuate a system of violence that results in the suffering and death of women like me.
No, they're not. Being straight is not the same thing.
This is the real face of transwhacktivists.
Trans is a misogynistic hate group that appropriates female culture. Trans hates everyone who is not mentally ill like they are, especially lesbians and feminists. They call us "cis scum" and use the made up word "transphobia" to silence any criticism.
Google "cotton ceiling" and then tell me with a straight face that trans does not promote rape culture.
To the last commenter:
I find it ironic that you're addressing someone else as a hate group when your username is "Die Trans Scum". That username makes you no better than the original commenter telling people to die.
The truth is, every group has its jerks and its saints. That includes feminists, and that includes trans people.
Unfortunately, the jerks on the trans side (such as cis-radfems-are-a-joke) and the jerks on the feminist side (such as yourself) make things worse for the saints in both groups.
Oh suicide baiters, anyone who dares tell people to kill themselves never has anything valuable to say.
Much like doxxers who believe that harassing people is good when they do it.
The shitstains make the good people look bad.
Confused?
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